Something New from Led Zeppelin Being Mastered Now

As much as I'm usually against this process, I wonder if they could de-mix/upmix (whatever that process is called) the raw soundboard that's on the video and extract the guitar part and then paste it into the multitracks for mixing? Not ideal, but a solution maybe?

 

I was thinking the same thing - there have been far worse Frankensteins in the world of "live" albums...

 

I would not have favored such an endeavor. JP circa 1979 is much different than JP 2002. In general, I’m not a supporter of contemporary-era overdubbing on vintage music.

 

Heh, more like the Swedish Bikini Team Cheerleaders.

 

Oh, I’m not a supporter either. In this case, to salvage a performance, I’d have tolerated it

 

I agree

 

The ‘Ten Years Gone’ discussion puzzles me. I know that they showed a version on VH 1 in the 90’s for the crop circles box set release weekend. Jimmy’s guitar was prominent in that (stereo sbd) mix. I recall JPJ playing the triple neck acoustic and that being barely audible. I had it on vhs and watched it quite often.

Now, that may still mean that Jimmy’s b bender tele didn’t make the multis, but there is at least a sbd with his guitar on it.

 

Most of the show probably does exist on the multitracks including Since I've Been Loving You, Thank You and the Long Tall Sally Medley. The only song we know that the tape ran out was on Heartbreaker, but we do not know how much, if any, of the end of the song was recorded, that's why I was hoping for an edit. There was a bit of missing footage throughout the show, but they made it work with what they had with only two cameramen.

 

This was mentioned earlier in the thread. They could not isolate Jimmy's guitar from the board tape to add it to the multitrack. But there may be some new technology they could try to get this to somehow work better than it would have in 2002 when it was being put together including ambient mics picking up the guitar.

 

Great point- I’ll bet better technology exists today, but I guess it would still not be optimal. Or at least good enough to sound cohesive with the rest of the (amazing sounding) set.

 

I still don't understand why they didn't include it as an "official bootleg" track unless they hoped to include in on a future release.

 

As revisionism, no. But in places where a track literally doesn't exist, I'm fine with it. Considering there's no other properly recorded live versions of "Ten Years Gone," it's the best we could get. I'd rather have something than nothing, but that's just me. Especially if it was only one track out of the whole show, and it meant we could have a professionally mixed late-period Zep recording.

 

I understand, but I do not see it as salvaging the performance because it would have represented something much different than the original.

 

I'm not sure if I've ever seen this.. Though after watching, for me the most memorable thing is Bonham standing up clapping hands and singing.......Love that, though IMO the whole performance to me pales in comparison to the "Blueberry hill" show, including the released material.

Guessing your a serious LZ man, I'm wondering if the clip you posted is included in the "film noir" boot compilation? If so I have seen it....but don't care enough to go dig it out.

I'm a big fan of the Zeppelin cover medleys, I wish they didn't get edited out on the official releases, for me usually the best part of the show.

 

A lot can change in 8 months

BTW, 9/19/70 over 9/4/70 every day of the week

 

I need to spend time with that...I have it all, just limited time..
Need to go through all the boots and grade them. 70 is always good,
but many are bad recording..9/19 sounds very good
I checked You tube for reference.. Guessing you mean 2nd show?
Better sound and performance over day show from my brief look.

9/4/70 is so great though, and recording quality helps..
Zeppelin was just great IMO up till 72......

 

Yep, evening set. I honestly feel it's the greatest show of their career (and I've heard them all). It's the only recording I revisit at least once a year.

Good luck finding the time to listen to everything. It took me an entire year on a very strict daily schedule. Totally worth it, though.

 

I've copied everything that circulates, outside a couple fairly recent released soundboards I've yet to get. I've listened to each for at least a quick sample, but 20% at best completely. I need to get those SB's. Mine aren't on hard drives, but discs that I burned.7 or 8 milk crates full..Only a small percentage did I make proper covers for, but on all I noted tracklisting and of course date/venue.
May get around to making the covers, was on it for a while. There are site that have copyable boot covers.....as you probably know...

As you've heard a million times before, not enough setlist variance, a lot of listening can be tedious..Listening to 73-80 chronologically for me wouldn't be that enjoyable...Earlier stuff is best for me. Still I feel I need to have it all..even if I don't listen

 

This is my personal 'best of' list

 

Thanks for the link!
Good job!

 

I've actually listened to most all those shows in their entirety at least once, and have recollections of how they all sound.(Not sure about Vancouver 75) but I've listened to all the Seattle/NY/EC stuff etc. I get the feeling you like 75 better than 73 as I do, though I much prefer pre 73.A friend of mines dad actually recorded one of those Seattle shows. A reel to reel recording that's incomplete, but a good one. I think I've been to your site before, gonna have to check it out some more.

Too bad that in 77 they didn't do 2 or 3 shows at the coliseum instead of 1 at the Kingdome.
Or just that the Kingdome show wasn't better.

 

What I find strange is that when the RAH audio leaked (Shirley's working tapes) the only extra audio we got was HB. I wondered why the other stuff didn't leak at the time. If he as working on HB then surely he must have been working on the other tracks as well. It's probably just down to whoever leaked this held back everything else or something similar. But I did find it odd and wondered if those even still exist.

I don't think they ever broadcast SIBLY or Thank You during the radio broadcast and no soundboard sourced boot ever had them either.

 

I think there's more '73 on the list than '75, but there's a little bit from every era.

Was your friend's dad part of the JEMS crew? I used to work with Erik.

 

The Shirley working tapes also included an edited Long Tall Sally. I agree that it's strange those are missing as he probably was working on them as well. HB may have been included because it is on the official DVD during one of the menus and since it's only half the song, the people that let out the working tapes didn't mind. A small fragment of the organ solo with footage is included on one of the DVD menus as well. You are correct, SIBLY and TY have never surfaced on any version of the show as of yet. Shirley never commented on those tracks, nor did anyone ask about them when interviewing him about the RAH.

 

Now here's something interesting from the Jimmy Page at Oxford Union Address thread (at about 38 mins).
He talks about just having been listening to a version of Dazed and Confused from Jan 1973.
This maybe the Southampton gig.
Now it could be that he spends his golden years just casually listening to live versions of D & C but one look at his Pre-Raphaelite inspired girlfriend and this seems unlikely.
This, together with the recent withdrawn tweet from John Davis, could indicate that some more, new, official live Zep this way comes.