SPOILERS Genesis - The Last Domino? Tour SPOILERS

Collins sounds very dodgy in those clips but seeing him do the tambourine dance in his 'lift and tilt' chair would be worth the price of admission alone !

 

Sad to see PC looking so frail and sadly sounding frail too....I saw them in 1980 and they were tremendous. I hate to say it but I'm not sure this tour is justifiable on any level -yes the components are all there in terms of set, light show and probably even arrangements but when the focal point is clearly not well I'm not sure it has much point.

 

How about the fact that other people share a different view on it than you? Wouldn’t that make it justifiable?

 

Absolutely. However the point of these forums is debate. How you articulate your opinion is important. We are looking at a very frail man who is struggling badly to contribute anything of worth to the legacy of a great band. My personal opinion is someone should have been brave enough to say this isn't going to work. Do you think it is justifiable? And if so why?

 

The way I see it, Phil gets a chance to tour again with his son, his good friends Tony Mike and Daryl, and be a part of a band that has given us so many memorable moments of music and performances. Mix in a state-of-the-art light and video show and it makes sense to me.

I can completely understand those who will pass on seeing the show, but I’d go in a heartbeat if the band added any shows in my area. And IMO Phil won’t tarnish anything regarding his legacy. I saw him solo on 3 tours including his most recent where he also sat in the chair and he’s still a legend to me no matter what.

 

Agreed. Stage set looks amazing. I rather remember Phil from the 07 tour when he was still mobile and playing the kit. More power to him for continuing though. I don’t think he is tarnishing any legacy. And he sounds solid enough that when at the show it’s probably good

 

The earth moved for me when watching the YouTubes of the first concert.

Unfortunately this was because Melbourne was hit by a magnitude 6 earthquake.

 

Which song *was* this after all?!?

 

I think it’s Second Home by the Sea. Months ago I was guessing it was the Squonk creature!

 

Sat right behind phil's kit behind the stage in 1986 in a small arena hard to top that.

Nic is drumming great though! Gotta say they're sounding good

 

Crowd is slowly beginning to form for tonight's show in Birmingham (Night # 3 .... Wednesday 9.22.2021):



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When even most in the arena focus on giant screens during a performance, the main impact of Phil being seated (in a band in which Tony always performs seated, Steve usually performed seated, and Mike at times performed seated) is that it is easier for him to be seen in close up on the screens at all times when performing from a seated position rather than cameras having to follow him around.

And him not being able to drum has a very limited impact on the show, as he has only drummed for about 10% of each show for the last 45 years. As far as drumming the biggest change is the loss of Chester Thompson - though it seems nobody is faulting the job Phil's son is doing.

 

Photos of the stage and more during soundcheck this afternoon (from a class of music students)...



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Closer to showtime....



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Doesn’t sound too bad at all really. But I have to believe that without the backup singers it would be a train wreck. The band sounds like it hasn’t lost a step.

 

Showtime !!

 

You were required to be double vaccinated or have an up to date PCR/antigen test to be able to gain access to the venue so why shouldn't some element of life return to 'normal'? Plenty of people wearing masks in the audience as well

 

The entire show from the first night in Birmingham (Monday 9.20) is on YouTube. The person recording the show split the video into different segments but the playlist is here:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0oz3aZg2QY5ZfXNyNhcbLK70Ao0pqz3y

Enjoy !!!

 

Thanks for the reply. So, I understand of course, the desire to "get back to normal" and I have a choice of going to see Steve Hackett in Edinburgh this week and Fish in Glasgow in November. And great to hear that people are wearing masks too.

By the same token, I also understand that the vaccine doesn't prevent anyone from getting the virus, but that it lessens its impact if you get it. I also understand that the numbers of Covid cases in schools across the UK are rocketing, hospitals are maxed out (again) at numbers we didn't see this time last year.

For me, if I get a bad dose of it - and I'm doubly jagged with the Pfizer vaccine - I'm f**ked financially as the last 18 months were crippling for me and my company (now defunct). There's a fine balance here and I think we're in for a very difficult winter.

So why shouldn't some element of life return to normal? No reason at all. Equally, 15,000 in an arena show in a country seeing over 30,000 new infections a day, with the added pressures that brings on the NHS - and if that breaks, we're shafted - doesn't seem to me to be a return to normal that 's a necessary return to normal at this very moment in time. You may of course disagree and that's fine. This is just my view.

 

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I understand your view and this is where a balance has to be found as we need to find a way to live with this virus.I'm also sorry to hear about the demise of your business and the financial impact it has had for you personally. If the NHS can't cope then we will have to lockdown again but covid-related deaths are much lower than those due to cancer, heart attack and even flu. As we 'unlock' society then infections will obviously increase. We also need to think about the populations' mental health as a result of being locked down and factor in of the impact delays in diagnosing cancer for example as it is nigh on impossible to see a GP face to face currently. Lord knows what the nation's dental health is like as well as a result of the impact on the profession.

 

Think Covid hospitalisations in UK are at about 1/4 of peak times currently.

 

I would understand and support a government decision to lock things down or limit attendance.
Barring that, I don't think the live music industry - employing tons of people who have been out of work for 18 months - should feel any obligation to take on the governments role of safeguarding people by shutting itself down.

 

The pressure on the NHS has nothing to do with covid. The decimation of the NHS started with Virginia Bottemley in 1992. Before then the NHS would have dealt with covid, or anything else, in a heartbeat.