Star Wars sequels to be ‘erased’ and made null and void...

Lucas could have made Jar Jar a sith lord, but noooooooo...

 

Yes. Doomc**k is one of the ones who has talked smack about the new Star Trek and said stupid crap every time.

 

Horses hit.

 

Or with original-recipe NBC 60s Star Trek on DVD-- to some, the only way to truly enjoy that classic inaugural Trek is with the original 60s NBC special effects; the remastering ruins the show and doesn't do it justice (at least from what I've heard).

 

No, AFAICT the Blu-ray effects were limited to the ship exteriors. My guess is that Blu-ray resolution made the original miniature shots unusable. There may have been some work on how props are illuminated or sound, but I'm not expert enough to know.

The ship's deck and other things you think might have been considered for refurbishing were not done. You can occasionally see the grain of gray painted plywood! And the actors' makeup is a bit jarring at first.

A friend is a huge fan from the original broadcasts and would have objected to wholesale STAR WARS style revisionism, but he really likes the Blu-rays and that's how he shows them to his kids.

 

They can erase the lot of them for all I care now.

It was fun back in 1977! But now everyone has just sucked all the fun and integrity out of it.

A shambles.

 

IIRC there were over 35 changes before they even get to Alderaan. So it’s way more than “a little digital editing”

 

The "Trek" BDs include both the revised and the original effects...

 

And that’s the point, we’re not arguing the special edition shouldn’t exist. We’re saying we should be able to choose if we want to buy the OOT or the SE or both! But unfortunately we haven’t been given that chance since 2006.

Star Trek did it right, we are given options.

 

And I'm with you - I'm all for the OOT getting a good quality release!

I got the impression some thought the "Trek" TOS BDs only included the revised visuals, though...

 

Far from it-- I was speaking in general terms about how some fans of the Trek franchise are purists only, and seemingly deem the remastered edition an abomination (notwithstanding the PQ option on the Blus).

 

Exactly. They even shot new footage for some of the movies, added in new CGI characters, etc. Hardly "a little digital editing".

 

They should've had him join Anakin in turning to the Dark Side. "Meesa gonna help you kill these kids!"

 

When George Lucas sold the property to Disney I said we were going to get Kentucky Fried Star Wars movies and that's exactly what we got. If you don't think mouse house isn't done sucking money out of consumers pockets in the name of the Force and all the is holy... Your crazy.

 

Yup. You can argue all you want about their quality, but the sequels were not an artistic statement or vision- like there was this interesting story that just had to be told. They were pure product.

(As it happens the story they did come up with nullified/obviated the first three films, so maybe there was an artistic motivation).

 

So "Trek" purists don't like the remastered BD visuals - even with the original effects?

Why??? Because it doesn't look like it did on a crappy 15" Sylvania in 1968?

 

Unless it was cropped to 16 by 9 or NR'd to death or somthing, I don't see why people would complain.

 

Yeah, me either. The "Trek" BDs use the original aspect ratio, the original mono audio, the original FX and look great. As far as I know, they've not been tinkered with in a substantial way - if you opt for original FX, that is.

No clue why fans would be upset with them!

 

For me, the new FX in the Star Trek TOS, are okay, but they don't improve many of the great stories, acting and chemistry between the characters. The old effects don't bother me because many of the stories are so good, it doesn't really matter. Of course, there are some lesser episodes, but the good ones stand out and still work, even if the FX look dated by todays standards.

 

And for the last psychotic fan rumors, this one takes the cake...

Star Wars: George Lucas Reportedly Will Return To Direct His Initial Proposed Trilogy



I don't there's a chance in hell this will happen: I think Lucas is really most sincerely retired.

 

I still like "Star Wars" the best, but "Empire" and "Jedi" are decent too... I loved it all as a kid, but now look back on it and think if "Star Wars" was it, and no sequels were ever made, I'd be fine with that.

"Star Wars" the franchise (the entire thing, *all* the films, the EU, and so on down the line) has gone way beyond anything I'd even have any interest in. It's good it's still around for those who enjoy it, but truthfully, if I never see anything but the three original films, that's A-Okay with me. I have zero interest in the rest of it.

 

the first 'star wars' was groundbreaking cinema.......the whole thing then became a parody of itself. cartoons with real actors.

 

Well, if you're going to go all "purist" on TOS, I say it must be savored in its' bleached-out independent-station syndicated form, as it was when it was originally a fad: fading color, choppy edits to fit hundreds of more commercials in, credits hacked to pieces, with "Desilu" replaced by "Gulf & Western Company", and crappy local-tv-station splices!

 

The only issue I have with the original FX is that the live-action parts of the episodes look so good, the FX stand out as problematic.

That said, I prefer them. While the new FX didn't go wild, they also didn't mesh all that well with the low-tech world of TOS.

As I said in my review: "I wasn’t especially wild about the altered effects. Sure, they looked great – a little too great, I thought. They didn’t fit in particularly well with the semi-clunky look of everything else in the “TOS” world. "

 

Honestly, I think that's what the "purists" want! If "TOS" doesn't look exactly as it did on consumer TVs in 1968, it's trash!