Steely Dan CDs Different Masterings: Aja

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mdekoning, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. Downsampled

    Downsampled Senior Member

    The mastering is pretty easy to get (you can see from the notes that there are lots of different pressings that have it), but the Japan-for-US is uncommon. Not really rare, I would say. With a little patience, they eventually turn up here and there.

    (In fact, I have a copy of that myself that I'm going to sell one of these days.)
     
  2. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Kinda strange I found two of them in a 24-hour period then!
     
  3. mdekoning

    mdekoning Senior Member Thread Starter

  4. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Searching For Simplicity

    Location:
    Midwest
    I have an old UK cd that is a Steve mastering. I forget if it's #3 or #6.

    All I can say is...it sounds great! But I have heard several different cd's of this album and none of them are bad but Steve's mastering sounds natural. :)
     
  5. mdekoning

    mdekoning Senior Member Thread Starter

    According to some members here both 3 and 6 aren't from Steve's master, only 7 is.
     
  6. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Searching For Simplicity

    Location:
    Midwest
    I double checked my cd and it's #7 :)
     
  7. Hawkman

    Hawkman Supercar Gort Staff

    Location:
    New Jersey
    I don't what the hell I have!! :confused:

    No barcode...states on the disc that it is Made In Japan for MCA Records. On the disc itself next to the 'compact disc' symbol at the three o'clock position is MCAD-37214 and under it is DIDX 55. Same info next to Donald Fagen on the back of the booklet.

    The inner ring has this master number.....DIDX-55 21A1

    According to my Windows Media player...it runs 39:57

    That's it.

    So what is this???
     
  8. Hawkman

    Hawkman Supercar Gort Staff

    Location:
    New Jersey
    bump...because I still don't know what I have.
     
  9. mdekoning

    mdekoning Senior Member Thread Starter

    Just look at the data above. If it has JVC or CINRAM anywhere in the matrix it's mastering 4, otherwise it's mastering 3. The easiest way to find out is to download Exact Audio Copy and check peak levels.
     
  10. Downsampled

    Downsampled Senior Member

    That's mastering number 3. The clear plastic hub has "CSR COMPACT DISC" embossed in it, right? It was manufactured by Sony -- as opposed to the more common JVC-pressed Japan-for-USA disc.
     
  11. Hawkman

    Hawkman Supercar Gort Staff

    Location:
    New Jersey
    That's it! CSR Compact Disc in the hub. THANK YOU!
     
  12. Downsampled

    Downsampled Senior Member

    You're welcome! :)
     
  13. AudiophilePhil

    AudiophilePhil Senior Member

    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    The Best Sounding AJA by Steely Dan on CD

    What do you think is the best sounding AJA CD reissue?

    1984 MCA catalogue number MCAD-37214
    1990 MCA
    1990 Mobile Fidelity Gold CD
    1999 MCA Original Recording Remastered
    2000 MCA Import (Japan)
    2002 Universal Original recording Remastered (Japan)
    2005 Universal/Geffen (import)
    2008 Universal Japan
    2009 Universal Japan/Zoom


    Is the one (1984 or 1990?) with "JVC" written on the label close to the center hole, the one to get?
     
  14. mdekoning

    mdekoning Senior Member Thread Starter

  15. AudiophilePhil

    AudiophilePhil Senior Member

    Location:
    San Diego, CA
  16. Chris C

    Chris C Music was my first love and it will be my last!

    Location:
    Ohio
    This is the first one I bought years ago, when it was new and I still stand by it, all these years later.

    Chris C

    (MCAD-37214, DIDX-55, 21A1, Manufactured in Japan)
     
  17. AudiophilePhil

    AudiophilePhil Senior Member

    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    I have a terrible headache after reading those threads.

    Even after reading most of them, I still don't have any idea about what the concensus is.

    The only thing I am sure of is that the 1984 MCA catalogue number MCAD-37214 is the one to get but it still not clear to me how to identify the Hoffman from the Nichols remasters. Do they share the same catalogue number MCAD-37214 ?
     
  18. mdekoning

    mdekoning Senior Member Thread Starter

    The difference between mastering 3, 6 & 7 in the following thread is so minimal that it's useless to discuss which of them is better. If you own one of them you should be fine.

    http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=158372

    Please note that nobody has ever been able to identify a Roger Nichols mastering, so not a single one of these threads will help you telling a Nichols disc from a Hoffman disc. Only the Hoffman mastering was ever identified.
     
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  19. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

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    Get a Japanese pressing with catalog number MCAD-37214 and you'll be fine.
     
  20. ivan_wemple

    ivan_wemple Senior Member

    :agree:
     
  21. Barry Vaughan

    Barry Vaughan Active Member

    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Speaking as someone who got an actual migraine after getting sucked into one of those old 'Aja' threads, let me strongly second that. :agree:
     
  22. street legal

    street legal Senior Member

    Location:
    west milford, nj
    :agree:

    I see absolutely no reason to not step up & third that.

    A few years ago, I was somewhat confident that I had a CD of "Aja" with Steve's mastering.
    I sent Steve a CD-R of it, & he was nice enough to take the time & listen to it. He told me that it was not his, but still a very nice sounding disc. That was good enough for me, & ended my search for the ultimate "Aja" CD. :)
     
  23. syogusr

    syogusr New Member

    1990 Mobile Fidelity Gold CD
     
  24. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Searching For Simplicity

    Location:
    Midwest
    I recommend this one:

    MCA UK MCLD 19145 "Mastered by Nimbus" / Matrix: A1388 DMCL 1745
     
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  25. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Isn't the Cisco vinyl still available at retail? That's a nice alternative.
     

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