Stock, Aitken and Waterman - Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bink, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. AndrewK

    AndrewK Forum Resident

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    Whatever I Do (Wherever I Go) is a wonderful track! I also like Hazell's They Says It's Gonna Rain, but I don't think that one is written by SAW
     
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  2. Duol

    Duol Hopeless Throwback

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  3. Django

    Django Forum Resident

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    I like a few SAW tracks. Especially for you is a really written pop song. I love the way all the melodies just flow into each other.

    I've always been suspicious of what Pete Waterman's level of input was musically.
    Years later I heard an interview with Mike Stock & he said it was Him & Matt Aiken that were spending 14 hours a day in the studio.
     
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  4. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    Some great pop records, though obviously they flooded the market a bit.:) Aside from working with new acts, they gave people like Donna Summer and Bananarama a career boost too. A while ago there was a huge SAW box put out. I wouldn’t go as far as to say I needed that, but there were a lot of records they made that I liked.
     
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  5. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    I always hoped SAW would record with Olivia who was struggling commercially by the end of the 80’s. She had the right kind of light pop voice that would have benefited their sound, I think. Luckily ONJ had her own plans. A children’s album, no less. Why have Better The Devil You Know when you can have Twinkle Twinkle Little Star?


    :D
     
  6. c-eling

    c-eling They're made of light,We never would have guessed

  7. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    From my point of view, I had strange relationship with SAW music. I was 9 years old when I started watching Neighbours and then realised that 'Charlene' had made a record. I remember actually loving the song and was not just listening to it because of the Neighbours connection. That was when I first started buying music and was a big Kylie fan. I am still a big fan. I am still actually quite proud that at aged 9 I latched onto a singer who more than 30 years later is still successful despite the fact that everyone said she wouldn't last a year!

    The funny thing is I wasn't really a fan of any of the other SAW acts at the time. It has only been more recently that I have started going back to some of the other songs.

    As this thread has already demonstrated, SAW will certainly not appeal to everyone. However even if you put aside any misgivings you have about the way the songs were produced, it is clear that at their best they wrote some very strong melodic songs.
     
  8. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    Nobody would have predicted in 1988 that Kylie would have the career she has. She just seemed to get better and better. A great live act too. There’s an enormous amount of affection for Kylie in the U.K. even now.
     
  9. Toomanydogs

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    I thought this was pretty good.
     
  10. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Absolutely. She has had quite a strange career. For several years even she seemed to underestimate her abilities and particularly her role in her SAW recordings. Sometimes she seemed to fall into thinking that she was just a puppet for SAW however I think they actually had quite a symbiotic relationship - I think her enthusiasm for certain types of music seemed to challenge them to write songs that they wouldn't have otherwise.

    Her immediate post-SAW career did not bring as much commercial success but it seems in hindsight that she needed that in order to achieve her post millennium success.
     
  11. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    Yes, Light Years and Spinning Around turned her career around 20 years ago (an anniversary thread?!) and she’s been on an even keel ever since.
     
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  12. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    There was a sweet moment a few years ago when she released her Christmas album she got SAW to remix one of the songs from that album. She cannily realized that Christmas is a time for nostalgia so it was perfect - it actually sounded like 1988 again.

    Maybe she should reunite with them for another album! It would be a good way to turn the tables and have control over the album!
     
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  13. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    Yes, that had crossed my mind too. Kylie could start the SAW revival.:)
     
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  14. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Well Golden seemed to be like revisiting mid 70's country, whilst the next one looks like an early 80's disco / synth influence so maybe she is working her way up to it.
     
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  15. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I am surprised Cliff Richard didn't work on a full album with SAW after this song:

     
  16. AndrewK

    AndrewK Forum Resident

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    I think most important to a teenage boy in the 80's would be that Mandy Smith worked with them :)

    Mandy Smith - I Just Can't Wait (Toppop)

     
  17. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    This is the same Mandy Smith that married Bill Wyman isn't it?
     
  18. AndrewK

    AndrewK Forum Resident

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    the male singer on Especially For You, Jason Donovan he didn't crossover to US market as well, Too Many Broken Hearts is alright, not the best for me but ok

    Too Many Broken Hearts
     
  19. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    I own both of Jason’s first 2 albums.


    I doubt anyone will fall over in shock at this revelation.

    :D
     
  20. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Ah yes, Jason. I don't know how well it's known in the US what his back story is.

    Jason starred in Neighbours with Kylie. Their on screen romance caught the imagination of fans of the show. They were also a couple in real life although they generally kept this quite well hidden. They had in fact starred in a previous TV show when they were aged about 11. Kylie eventually left him for Michael Hutchence.

    Anyway Jason followed Kylie to SAW and had a pretty good career there for a couple of years. He then received an offer to star in Joseph and his Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat in the West End. This was very successful for him. He recently said he gets more revenue from this each year than anything he did for SAW.
     
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  21. Orthogonian Blues

    Orthogonian Blues A man with a fork in a world full of soup.

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    Here it is, surely the most surprising of SAW's projects.

    A cover of The Stylistics' You Are Everything by... Judas Priest!

     
  22. Django

    Django Forum Resident

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    I like that one. Good pop tune.
     
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  23. Andreas

    Andreas Senior Member

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    Since this is an appreciation thread, I will list the SAW songs that I like:

    Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round
    Mel & Kim - Showing Out
    Bananarama - I Heard A Rumor
     
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  24. cut to the chase

    cut to the chase Forum Resident

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    It's quite surprising but 4 SAW productions were bigger hits in the US than in the UK:
    - Bananarama - Venus (US #1, UK #8)
    - Dead or Alive - Brand New Lover (US #15, UK #31)
    - Bananarama - I Heard a Rumour (US #4, UK #14)
    - Boy Krazy - That's What Love Can Do (US #18, UK #86)
     
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  25. SteveRes

    SteveRes Forum Resident

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    Didn't they prefer Jack to Fleetwood Mac? Never quite sure who this Jack fella was but he must have been tasty.
     
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