Strictly for fans of Audio Note UK (all things Audio Note UK)

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Richard Austen, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. jsr

    jsr Forum Resident

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    Thanks, the AN is my main listening system and other than a possible TT upgrade that is it for me! Will probably sell the DAC 5 which is not in use to help finance the turntable. Kensingtons are in my Accuphase/PS Audio digital rig which doesn't get much mileage. I just received the new PS Audio transport so the digital rig will probably get a little more air time. Your system looks great Jonwoody, I see some vinyl in the photo, I would say its time for a turntable:)
     
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  2. jonwoody

    jonwoody Tragically Unhip

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    Thank you Jsr and you have two great systems congrats! Yes there is some vinyl good eye and a turntable will be added sometime after this Covid nightmare ends!
     
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  3. slcaudiophile

    slcaudiophile Forum Resident

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    nice. what other AN amps have you owned?
     
  4. Richard Austen

    Richard Austen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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  5. Richard Austen

    Richard Austen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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  6. Chris.p.l

    Chris.p.l Forum Resident

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    Hello,

    Happy New Year to everyone!

    I wonder if by changing the 6x5 tube of the Dac2.1x sig, I should expect a difference in the sound?
     
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  7. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    Changing both tubes in the power supply will influence the sound, the 6x5 and the ECL82.
     
  8. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    Selling the Dac5 would be regrettable should you ever get to hear it partnered with the new belt drive AN cd transports. Given what the TT3 sounds like and given the same application of motor control technology and material choices being applied to the cd transports, those who have good cd libraries are in for one hell of a ride should they get a chance to audition.
     
  9. Chris.p.l

    Chris.p.l Forum Resident

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    Thanks Finn,

    Is the ECL82 an equivalent of the E88cc?

    I have two Mullard made in Holland for the E88cc, I hope to be able to keep them for a long time ...
     
  10. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    Not equivalent so stick with ECL82, also known as a 6BM8. Amperes or Telefuken are the highest quality as a rule for this particular tube although as xpected, expensive but genuinely worth the cost. These tubes are not run hard in the power supply so last quite a few years before they start to drift out of spec.
    Your mullard's are a very nice sounding tube. They also last well.
     
  11. Encore

    Encore Forum Resident

    I don't know about the 2.1x Sig but in my DAC I can't hear differences between different 6X5 tubes. NOS Telefunken ECL82 gives a slight, but welcome improvement over NOS Philips.
     
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  12. jonwoody

    jonwoody Tragically Unhip

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  13. DeeKay

    DeeKay Forum Resident

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    That he does. Having a very similar system, even down to the Bugle Boys in the DAC, much of what he describes makes complete sense. I’ll be buying two of the 3 CDs he described so enticingly.
     
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  14. Gjo

    Gjo Forum Resident

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    Los Angeles
    Question...

    Owner of AN Conquest Silver amplifiers. Original OEM 300B tubes which test “Good” on a calibrated Triplett 3400 tester.

    I’ve been reading positive things about the new AN 4300E tubes. Should I replace my perfectly good OEM 300B?
     
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  15. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    Get the Kruder Dorfmeister disc as well and scare the kiddies when you put it on. Aside from entertaining your neighbors, PQ will be very happy with your musical taste when he reads of your court case and how you sited Rafe's article in your defence.
     
  16. slcaudiophile

    slcaudiophile Forum Resident

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    the St Germain 'Tourist' he has in the 3rd photo is another really great album. interestingly, i found my copy at a record store going out business in a bin 2/$5 so i picked it up along with Acid Bath's debut CD. the guy at the counter gave me a quizzical look but both great albums!
     
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  17. DeeKay

    DeeKay Forum Resident

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    Thanks for the recommendation. Ordered and at £2 delivered I didn’t bother looking up what genre it might be, there’s not much I won’t listen to. I love this about CDs now, people are being brainwashed into dumping them for little or nothing but it works for me.
     
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  18. Andrew Mackay

    Andrew Mackay Forum Resident

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    Will the belt drive transports be applied across the CDP range or just to Levels 4 and 5?
     
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  19. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    Keep them as spares but the 4300E tubes are streets ahead of the original supply version. There is no comparison.
     
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  20. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    There has been very little information forthcoming regarding the project and given some of the Covid considerations placed on the factory recently, I don't think that will change. It was my understanding that it might be restricted to full width player only down to the chassis internal space required for the motor control and power supply. Finalising on the full specification was expected in Febuary but that may be a best case scenario. We have had our CDT4 over at the factory for months awaiting rebuild and I am still clueless to the cost or any other details. My discussions about it have only been with Peter and some of the staff and that was enough to sway the jury.
     
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  21. Gjo

    Gjo Forum Resident

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    Thank you. If it’s not too much trouble, would you describe the aspects of the 4300E that make them streets ahead of the stock OEM 300B?
     
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  22. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    Much better linearity in terms of frequency at the bass and top end, more transparent and greater resolving of the recording, greater harmonic structure and longer decay in the sound heard, much quieter background and significantly more dynamic but without any increase in volume adjustment.
     
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  23. Gjo

    Gjo Forum Resident

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    Los Angeles
    @finn, thank you!
     
  24. Andrew Mackay

    Andrew Mackay Forum Resident

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    Taillant, France
    Thanks Finn. Sounds like another case of Audio Note hurry up and wait! But it will be interesting to know where AN are going to take this project.
     
  25. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    It's always the case that starting with a clean slate, projects like this have a much more defined timeframe and given its about integrating a new motor and belt drive system for the spindle as well as the laser sled also being belt drive and there being audible differences in belt material and the new tricks they developed with the PSU4 unit and so on.
    They have to get it right or the naysayers will be wanting a burning of the witch moment. 90% of the music I buy is cd as a lot of it wont be released on vinyl and the sound I get from cd is already quite exceptional and I want it to sound better again if possible. I can wait a little longer.
     

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