Studio Equipment for the Home - Your Opinions, Please

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by SVL, Mar 4, 2003.

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  1. Khorn

    Khorn Dynagrunt Obversarian

    At one point I used very long runs (around 50' still have 'em somewhere) of RG8U coax terminated with spade lugs on the solid core & braid. It was recommended by a pro amp manufacturer designer (for its electrical (low loss & impedance characteristics) + shielding) and it sounded really good.

    The cable I used is identified as follows:

    CSA CXC FTI LL83251 RG 8U 5009

    This is very heavy cable!

    Your local cable supplier/mfg can source an equivalent.

    This is a very reasonable alternative to expensive speaker cable and it works!
     
  2. Robb

    Robb Forum Resident

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    I think I need to quote myself here.....

    I'm glad to hear everyone's input on RCA jacks vs. XLR. I shot from the hip a little bit on this one, in that I have not directly compared a RCA then XLR side-by-side in an A/B comparison. I need to question my position on which connection I like more.

    My one question is, why do microphone cables come almost exclusively with balanced XLR cable terminations?

    Robert
     
  3. -=Rudy=-

    -=Rudy=- ♪♫♪♫♫♪♪♫♪♪ Staff

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    Robert--since microphones are often low-output devices, and/or have very long cable runs, they are more susceptible to picking up noise.
     
  4. Robb

    Robb Forum Resident

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    Oh, I get it now. :o Thanks, Rudy.

    So, a general rule of thumb is RCA connections for short runs of cable (under 25-50 ft), and XLR for longer?

    One other question: are cables with 1/4 inch terminations considered balanced?

    Thanks, Robert
     
  5. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Hi Robb,

    You have it right with the XLR/RCA (over 25' go XLR).

    1/4" terminations, like a guitar jack, are not considered balanced, they are basically operating on the same principle as the RCA's (2 post termination as opposed to XLR 3 post).
     
  6. Robb

    Robb Forum Resident

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    Thanks for the information, Dave. It's all making a lot more sense now.

    So, on RCAs and 1/4 inch, the ground/negative is the middle pin on RCA or the front notch on a 1/4 inch, and on XLR the center bottom pin is ground, with the ground and negative on separate signal paths.

    Cool.
     
  7. aashton

    aashton Here for the waters...

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  8. -=Rudy=-

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    I don't know if they've ever been used this way, but theoretically you could send a balanced signal using a 1/4" stereo phone plug. That would be three conductors--one ground, and two carrying the out of phase signal. (Ring/tip/sleeve?) If the signal is sent on two separate wires, each one out of phase, and they're "recombined" at the other end, they could be considered a "balanced" system.
     
  9. petzi

    petzi Forum Resident

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    The signal is on the centre pin on an RCA plug.

    1/4 inch can be a balanced connection by the way, with + and - on tip and ring, and shield on the sleeve. You have probably seen this type of 1/4" plug on stereo headphones.
     
  10. petzi

    petzi Forum Resident

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    Saw your post after I posted mine :)

    Yes, that is not uncommon in professional audio. I have an equalizer with in- and outputs configured that way, in addition to XLR connectors.
     
  11. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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    Pin 2 on most new XLR gear is hot. Some older gear has pin 3 as hot though so keep aware.
     
  12. wes

    wes Senior Member

    What about radio shack interconnects?

    -Wes
     
  13. audiodrome

    audiodrome Senior Member

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    I have A70's Series II and A60's Series II.
     
  14. -=Rudy=-

    -=Rudy=- ♪♫♪♫♫♪♪♫♪♪ Staff

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    I have one pair of A60, the original series. Don't care for them--the high end isn't all that good. They use a cone tweeter and to me it sounds muffled. Series II started using the good mylar dome tweeter in the 60's. I'm watching eBay for the better tweeters--they turn up occasionally.
     
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