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SUPATRAC Blackbird tone arm

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by tryitfirst, May 25, 2021.

  1. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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  2. Benzion

    Benzion "Cogito, ergo sum" Forum Resident

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    Uni-pivot? No thanks.
     
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  3. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    This is a new kind of uni-pivot which has no freedom to roll or rub in the time axis since the pivot points away from the stylus and the suspension is laterally stable. The bearing has more in common with a 4point than an ARO. It is not a uni-pivot in the traditional sense. What is your objection to uni-pivots other than rub and roll?
     
  4. Davey

    Davey NP: Kikagaku Moyo ~ Masana Temples

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    Not very aesthetically appealing, kind of industrial with the twin channel construction, but I guess that could also be said for some other tonearms that have been successfully marketed in the high end. I do wonder how big the market is for unusual tonearm designs like this, with a price pushing $2000.
     
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  5. Agitater

    Agitater Forum Resident

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    At an introductory price of £750, it's a tempting buy. There's no information on the product page about how the arm is wired or confirmation that it is supplied pre-wired, so that's a problem. Time for an email to them to find out.
     
  6. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    The standard internal wiring is copper litz, and the arm cable is Mogami Neglex 2549 with a standard 5-pin DIN plug as with Linn and SME arms. This information has now been added to the web site.
     
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  7. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    It looks interesting, I wish them success with the product.
     
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  8. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Serial number 2 is now in use, and this is the recipient's assessment:
    His deck is a Sondek and he normally uses a Tiger Paw Javelin.
     
  9. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    @tryitfirst is this your product?

    Made in Canada right?

    Either way, great to hear success stories!
     
  10. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Yes, this is my product - sorry if that was not clear. It is made in London UK, not London Ontario!
     
  11. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    No apologies required.

    Not even for being in the UK.

    :)

    I look forward to more positive updates.
     
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  12. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Adam of hifiaf.com has spent a couple of weeks with a Supatrac Blackbird and published the first vlog short review. He calls the Blackbird "revolutionary" and "mind-blowing":

     
  13. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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  14. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I've uploaded an updated manual here:
    http://www.supasound.com/manual.pdf

    I've also started making a new style of thrust box designed to go well with a fluted Sondek. I'm calling it 'death star'.

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  15. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    And here's a Death Star thrust box Blackbird installed:

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  16. bimasta

    bimasta Member

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    You really threw away the rule book, didn't you? Your positioning of the unipivot-point could solve a lot of problems, it's certainly innovative — it's the only place nobody has ever put a bearing — and seems brilliant. I say "seems" because I'd have to use the arm to really judge, and I don't how that could happen — but congratulations anyway!
     
  17. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    There's a rule book???
     
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  18. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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  19. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    These 3D graphics show a little more clearly the two thrust box styles 'aero' and 'death star':


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  20. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Last edited: Aug 16, 2021
  21. Davey

    Davey NP: Kikagaku Moyo ~ Masana Temples

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    SF Bay Area, USA
    The video isn't found, maybe misspelled, but you are gonna have to get one mounted on a Technics SL-1200G/GR to get interest up around here :)
     
  22. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I've been running them on an SL-1210 for a year. Will post more pictures soon.
     
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  23. Davey

    Davey NP: Kikagaku Moyo ~ Masana Temples

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    SF Bay Area, USA
    Cool, would love to see more pictures of the arm in action!
     
  24. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Fixed, thanks.
     
  25. DaveyF

    DaveyF Forum Resident

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    La Jolla, Calif
    This tonearm really looks to be revolutionary. I suspect it probably sounds incredible.
     

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