SUPATRAC Blackbird tone arm

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  1. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    I suspect so too ;-)
     
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  2. DaveyF

    DaveyF Forum Resident

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    You would…:edthumbs:
     
  3. HiFi Guy 008

    HiFi Guy 008 Forum Resident

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    What turntables would this arm be synergistic with? Modern tables? And Thorens 124 and 125?
     
  4. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    Currently it fits any Linn, SME or Well Tempered Amadeus. I'm working on Rega, ARO, VPI and Continuum Caliburn mounts which will be available any week now.

    The job of a tonearm is precise and simple. I'm not convinced that synergy will apply to this arm. It seems to me that if some arms work worse than others on a particular deck then there is either something wrong with the arm or the deck.
     
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  5. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    Here's a quote from one of the DIYers at Lenco Heaven who has built a clone of my arm bearing design:

    ...and the response:
     
  6. Ignatz

    Ignatz New Member

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    I love the thinking behind this… how would you mount a Troika? Could you?
     
  7. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    (Photo by hifiaf.com)

    Blackbirds have the third mounting hole for Linn cartridges and it is accessible with screwdriver or Allen key through the string-lift hole.
     
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  8. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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  9. Davey

    Davey NP: Hania Rani ~ Ghosts (2023 LP)

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    That does look nice on the Well Tempered, I prefer the more integrated finger lift you have on this one. Looks like one of the wires is almost touching the record, though :)
     
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  10. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    Looking very sharp on that WT deck.
     
  11. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    Not touching is not touching. ;-)
     
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  12. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    The first Blackbird for VPI customer is happy:

    "First impressions are excellent, definitely leaves
    the JMW Memorial Tonearm in the dust. More Bass
    and tighter, separation is excellent and overall great
    soundstage. Working through a load of albums as we
    speak and loving what I am hearing."
    http://www.supasound.com/photos/vpi.jpg
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    Reproduced with kind permission of the owner
     
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  13. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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  14. Dubmart

    Dubmart Senior Member

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    Has anybody mounted one, preferably a 12", on a Garrard 401, I could see it looking right and possibly rather stunning on a black painted Garrard, might have to reassess the direction I'm taking my 401.
     
  15. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    I've been using Blackbirds on my 301 for 18 months. In fact I invented the Blackbird specifically for my two 301s because I didn't really like the SME 3009 II arms which had served them since 1963. My Ekos 2 sounded much better. I knew that the 301s deserved better arms, but I could not afford any of the arms which interested me (e.g. Kuzma 4point), so I decided to have a go at building the best sounding tonearm in the world by going back to first principles. I did not expect to reach the Blackbird's level of performance so promptly.

    I actually prefer the look of the Garrard 401 to the 301, and the Blackbird would look made for the 401 as they share a 1970s rectangular black and silver theme.
     
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  16. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    Oh I think it would look pretty sick with a 301.
     
  17. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    I should point out that every Blackbird comes with both types of finger lifter, the string one and a rigid one. I think for most people once you get used to the string you won't want to go back, but if you can't stomach it, the rigid one is a pleasure to use as it's long enough and 12mm higher than the cartridge top. Unlike other uni-pivots there is no roll, so using the rigid lifter is just like the reassuring feel of a gimbal arm, not the wobbly sea-sick uni-pivot fumble.

    The string lifter has meant that I can stay in the sofa while commanding my young children to turn over the record, with no fear at all that they will not ace the procedure. I'm 18 months into that with no errors or disasters so far. The string is more natural and intuitive, and safer for cartridges.
     
  18. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    Perhaps I'll try making one.

    What prompted you to go the string lift direction?
     
  19. Davey

    Davey NP: Hania Rani ~ Ghosts (2023 LP)

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    I just don't really like the looks of the string lifter and I think it would interfere with many dust covers, so you couldn't close it during play. But just my personal preference.

    Have you got many requests or feedback to implement some type of cueing mechanism, or are all your customers content to hand cue all the time? I went for a few years with no cueing lever on one arm, and never worried much about it, but eventually began to really miss it, and now can't imagine doing without. Same with a dust cover that I can close during play, never thought that was so important, but am kind of spoiled now, especially since I often repeat play a record a few times so it would get pretty dusty without the cover :)

    Anyway, good luck, looks like you are starting to build some momentum and get quite a few arms out in the field, and working on new updates.
     
  20. Naka9

    Naka9 music first audiophile

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    Love the look of it :)
     
  21. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    It was a temporary measure on my first prototype. It didn't take long to realise that it was easier to use, more comfortable and safer for cartridges than the finger bars on my Ekos 2, Rega and SME arms. In fact it has been so reliable and comfortable to use that I have not bothered working on a lever lift for the Blackbird yet. I will one day, but the string works so well that a lever is not urgent at all. But don't take my word for it - a loop with a spare inch pointing up can be applied to any arm.
     
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  22. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    You are not alone, which is why I supply the rigid one too.

    You can push it down sideways after cuing. This doesn't normally cause the stylus to skip.

    Only a few. Most customers report that they are getting on surprisingly well with the string.


    Thank you - yes, momentum seems to be building steadily. Ultimately it's about the sound, and Blackbird users are very happy indeed with that.
     
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  23. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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  24. Phil Thien

    Phil Thien Forum Resident

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    That is a great looking combo, love those Brinkmann turntables.
     
  25. tryitfirst

    tryitfirst supatrac.com Thread Starter

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    It sounded great, but I'm also really pleased with how the Blackbird looks on decks like this. I couldn't quite do it justice in one smartphone snap, but it just looks made for decks like the Bardo and VPI scout. The wide flat arm tube seems to echo the shapes of the plinth and platter in a way that circular arm tubes don't.

    But it's the sound that matters and my customer said that from memory he thought it sounded better than the Lagrange/10.5/A90 sitting next to it, but that wasn't set up to play, so sadly we couldn't do a direct a/b comparison yet.
     

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