Sussudio: would've it been accepted if anyone but Phil Collins had sung it?

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  1. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Music Appreciator

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    As would I
     
  2. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark

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    And interestingly enough, five threads on it here since 2004 - good catch!
     
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  3. Dillydipper

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    It's kinda hard to parse this one, that far into their second/third act. I mean, we all admit that "White Rabbit" and "Somebody To Love" are always going to be the shadows looming over their career, and that happened (OMIGOD) half a century ago. Still, post-Gen-X/pre-Millenials comparing the circumstances in the front-end of their run, would have a real problem getting it. A lot of great songwriting in the '60s, but this troupe was neither a group of songwriters, or hitmakers...they were a "thing", a movement, a scene. Can't really compare Airplane/Starship with a guy who stepped out of his English Art-Band comfort zone 15 years later on the basis of a failed marriage. Really, apples and orangutans.
     
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  4. Mai Tem Baht

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    "Off of Portugal"

    Yeh, 900 miles off the coast of Portugal!
     
  5. mpayan

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    Its part of the 80's, it was a huge hit, most that I knew loved it.

    It sold, its bloody fun, wise up and shut up.
     
  6. HiredGoon

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    "Sussudio" ... megahit back in the day, catchy as hell but sounded a bit like "1999" to me. Dunno if it woulda had more critical appeal if sung by anyone else.

    I read an article recently that Phil Collins is one of only two artists that have sold over 100 million albums as both a solo artist and as a principal member of a band (Macca of course being the other one).

    In any case: awesome drummer, great songwriter, respect!

    --Geoff
     
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  7. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    That seems pretty normal to me, it was tacky of the DJ to play that.
     
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  8. Dillydipper

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    I know where it is, Mai...but they are a territory of Portugal, even if you only have to fly 2/3rds across an ocean to get there. ("Don't forget to gas-up when you land!").
     
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  9. Samantha Wolf

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    I loved it and still do!
     
  10. AFOS

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    Aren't they Jefferson Airplane with a different name?
     
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  11. Rufus rag

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    Why?
     
  12. AFOS

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    Those are two I'm not fond of either. The original of Groovy Kind Of Love though is a classic
     
  13. Guy Smiley

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    Fun Fact: Phil recorded this song in the Stu-stu-studio.
     
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  14. Guy Smiley

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    Though many of us tried.
     
  15. Brian Doherty

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    kind of, but the actual people in the Starship that recorded that had just one Airplaner left. In terms of hit writing, "White Rabbit" was both a top 10 hit and has remained iconic; guitarist Chaquico was one of four writers on 14 charting "Jane" and his "Find Your Way Back" was a top five "Mainstream rock" track, but only 29 on pop singles chart. That's about all they had going for them in hit-writing behind them.
     
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  16. Mai Tem Baht

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    I was just pointing out to those who don't know just how remote, and unconnected to Portugal, the Azores is.
     
  17. fer2

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    I think Peter Gabriel would've never done a song like that, with all my respects.
     
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  18. NettleBed

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    It matters if that's the general perception, and there aren't many '80s singers considered more uncool by the general public than Phil Collins.
     
  19. head_unit

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    Not sure the meaning of the question, but
    We Built This City Peaked at #1 on 11.16.1985
    Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now Peaked at #1 on 4.4.1987
    Sara Peaked at #1 on 3.15.1986
    ...and of course, hitting #1 is a true sign of greatness :laugh:
    I was thinking "Miracles" but that's actually Jefferson Starship. Hmm, what if the cast of The Jeffersons did a cover version? Would that hit #1? Boggles the mind to think about it...
     
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  20. 131east23

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    I think my appreciation for Phil stems from watching him and the other two remaining members of Genesis successfully hold it all together on stage a few times without Hackett and Gabriel back in late 70's early 80's. His solo career, those pop songs, have no effect on how highly I regard his talent.
     
  21. Brian Doherty

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    Yeah, but the members of the band Starship didn't write any of those number one hits; all outside songwriters. Miracles was written by JS member Balin, no longer part of Starship.
     
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  22. Nostaljack

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    Kinda. Only Grace Slick remained by then though.

    Ed
     
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  23. bob_32_116

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    But the OP was implicitly asking for people's opinions on Phil and on the song Sussudio, so aren't we allowed to give those opinions, and give them honestly? I don't think it's productive to call someone a "prog snob" just because they state that they dislike a certain song by a certain artist. People should not be required to prove their open-mindedness to pop by prefixing a post with "Hey, I like ABBA and I like the Monkees and I like Madonna" and list all the Phil Collins tracks they DO like before being allowed to say they dislike "Sussudio". Snobbery works both ways.
     
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  24. bob_32_116

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    So would I, but that doesn't mean we have to like everything he put out, or that we are not allowed to criticise it.
     
  25. Grant

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    I guess the so-called critics at RS didn't listen to much EWF, then.

    I know.:rolleyes: They were both around before you were. :)
     

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