Tape Loops of the 60s/70s

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  1. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Is that the intro I shoulda been in? Thread Starter

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    I really like when songs from the 60s/70s employ the use of tapeloops! What are some notable examples or some of your favorites? One of my favorites is Flying by The Beatles
     
  2. Sweet Cheerio

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    Terry Riley - Music for the Gift (1963)
     
  3. gd0

    gd0 Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies

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    Terry Riley - You're No Good

    Please set aside 20 minutes. :laugh:

     
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  4. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Daevid Allen learned tape composition in France with Francoise Bayle at GRM and was inspired by Terry Riley as were The Soft Machine.

    Gong Camembert Electrique seems to incorporate elements of the Switch Doctor tape-work, as did their live shows.
    Gong Continental Circus - one track uses found sound (interviews) with loops.
    David Allen - The Switch Doctor - a 30 min tape work made at GRM, elements of which were used by Francois Bayle in his own work.

    Does 'We Did It Again' by The Soft Machine use a tape loop? It sounds like it does but they may just be playing it that way.
     
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  5. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Poppy Nogood and The Phantom Band's All Night Flight is also based on Terry Riley's tape technique. The 'time-lag accumulator' as he called it.
     
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  7. elaterium

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    Back in the USSR
     
  8. no.nine

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  9. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    steve reich it's gonna rain, 1965.

    (And others from same period.)
     
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  10. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Orchid Spangiafora. Flee Past's Apes Elf. 1979

     
  11. karmaman

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    David Bowie - Station To Station (intro... BBC sound effects record looped on tape if that qualifies).
     
  12. tim_neely

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    "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees: The drums are a tape loop taken from a short snippet of the drum track of "Night Fever."
     
  13. All Down The Line

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    Think About It

    Yardbirds 1968

    ....Or do i have my FX mixed up?
     
  14. Motown Junk

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    The Who - Baba O'Riley

    Although not strictly a tape loop, I think it was a repeat function on Pete's organ, but wasn't he trying to recreate the tape loop effects of the aforementioned Terry Riley?

     
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  15. numer9

    numer9 Beatles Apologist

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    Tape loops as in Mellotron?
     
  16. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Mellotron does not use a loop. It has a 8 second length of tape. Also it is restricted to taping sequences of notes for playback, so I would suggest that is an early kind of sampler.

    The OP should correct me if I'm wrong, but I read this thread as about early use of tape-loops running on tape decks. Such methods use hand-splicing, or transfer of the signal onto a pre-made loop during live performance or composition. Pre-sampling technology.

    I know the difference between sampling and tape loops can be seen as subtle but it's about the constraints of technology, how that was used creatively and how it led to a particular aesthetic.
     
  17. mr.datsun

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    The classic The Beatles deconstruction by tape composers The Residents:
    The Residents - Beyond the Valley of a Day in the Life. 1977
     
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  18. numer9

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    My point being that I don't hear loops in Flying, just a Mellotron.
     
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  19. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    You may be right. I was wondering myself but assumed OP knew more than me about that track.

    EDIT. But they seem to be correct through (wiki):

    'It was recorded on 8 September 1967 with mellotron, guitar, bass, maracas, drums, and tape loops overdubs on 28 September.'
     
  20. Cassiel

    Cassiel Sonic Reducer

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    Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet - Gavin Bryars
     
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  21. numer9

    numer9 Beatles Apologist

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    The original track is 9 minutes long so that's possible. I sure don't hear them in the released version.
     
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  22. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    No idea. There are some repeating figures in there. There's a repeating organ sound all the way though in the left channel. Could that be it? Also some backward sounds at the end?

    It's hard to tell. Even listening to the 4 or 5 outtakes and the alt. mix. It's not an obvious candidate for talking about tape-loops.
     
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  23. Culpa

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    Yoko's Greenfield Morning, isn't that a loop of George Harrison's sitar?
     
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  24. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    I don't know, but I like this piece.
     
  25. Vangro

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    Luc Ferrari, "Éphémère II"

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