Terminator: Dark Fate*

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Deuce66, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Boy, I hope you're right. Terminator 2 set such a high bar, though...
     
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  2. Manimal

    Manimal Forum Resident

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    Probabl
    probably not.
     
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  3. will_b_free

    will_b_free Forum Resident

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    Yes.
     
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  4. Luke The Drifter

    Luke The Drifter Forum Resident

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    It would be nice to have a fantastic Trilogy made out of the franchise.
     
  5. SandAndGlass

    SandAndGlass Twilight Forum Resident

    It would just be nice to have the franchise make sense, trilogy or not.
     
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  6. Time Is On My Side

    Time Is On My Side Forum Resident

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    Should have stopped after the first one.
     
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  7. SandAndGlass

    SandAndGlass Twilight Forum Resident

    T2 was a good movie. Maybe after that.

    I just think that Cameron's efforts would be better served working on the second Avatar movie instead of an old worn out franchise.

    Was the public even clamoring for another Terminator movie?

    Now we are told that Avatar II is being pushed back yet another year.
     
  8. Time Is On My Side

    Time Is On My Side Forum Resident

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    I'm still waiting for The Abyss on 4K or Blu-ray. That's a better movie than anything he did after T2.
     
  9. Encuentro

    Encuentro Forum Resident

    The story was pretty much wrapped up at that point. Everything after the first film was implied, which is why Cameron went right back to the well with T2 and simply remade the original film. That’s not to say that T2 is a bad film. It simply reuses the first film’s proven formula with some character shuffling. Still an entertaining film but vastly inferior to the original.
     
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  10. SandAndGlass

    SandAndGlass Twilight Forum Resident

    I think that T2 introduced some interesting new elements and plot twists.
     
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  11. Encuentro

    Encuentro Forum Resident

    I agree, but most rehashes and remakes do. Unless it’s something like the 1998 Psycho, a scene-by-scene remake of the original, there are almost always going to be new elements introduced. A rehash is like a template, a roadmap for writers to follow when they don’t feel like starting a new story from scratch. T2 isn’t a scene-by-scene remake of the first film, but it follows the same formula.
     
  12. SandAndGlass

    SandAndGlass Twilight Forum Resident

    I don't know, I think that T2 took the original concept and ran with it. There were plenty of plot twists to separate it from the original.

    I would say that the same thinking would Apply to Aliens.
     
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  13. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I think there's a significant difference between T1 and T2, in T1 the threat is unknown, Sarah Connor has to undergo a significant change in order to survive. T2 takes place 10 years after events of the first, the world & Sarah changed significantly. The basic premise might be the same, terminator wants to kill John Connor and make sure that Cyberdyne and Skynet happen. It will be interesting to see where they pick up from T2.
     
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  14. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    First trailer out this Thursday.


    Arnold on Twitter

    Since I’m from the future I can officially report that the @Terminator trailer is 48 hours away.
     
  15. SizzleVonSizzleton

    SizzleVonSizzleton The Last Yeti

    I'm not sure anyone from the future should ever be kicked from behind in the present.
     
  16. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident Thread Starter

  17. thegage

    thegage Forum Currency Nerd

    Five credited for the story, three for the screenplay, plus who knows how many uncredited “fixers.” Doesn’t bode well.

    And does anyone know the difference between “&” and “and” when listing a credit?

    John K
     
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  18. Luke The Drifter

    Luke The Drifter Forum Resident

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    So is this set after Judgment Day happens? The poster seems to indicate it. That has potential.
     
  19. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Yes, ignore everything that came after T2.
     
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  20. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Goyer & Rhodes worked as a team? that's my guess.
     
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  21. David Campbell

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    I liked the original,loved T2 (an all time classic) and thought T3 was dumb fun with one heck of a twist ending. The other two that came after just were...not good.

    I have some hope this will be decent as Cameron is directly involved. I seriously doubt it will match either of the first two though, but as long as it isn't a borefest (Salvation) or ridiculously convoluted (Genysis) it'll be a step up. Of course,Cameron also endorsed Genysis,so we will see. At this point it could literally go either way. I'm most excited to see Linda Hamilton back as Sarah. She is the soul of the first two films IMO.
     
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  22. Luke The Drifter

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    The first film was gritty and innovative.
    T2 is widely recognized as one of the best sequels of all time.

    I honestly cannot even remember what followed, and did not even watch Genysis. With Hamilton and Cameron back, fingers crossed.
     
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  23. Chemically altered

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    This will go the way of Ridley Scott's recent Alien bombs. Why do these old directors do this? Is the money that enticing? Why ruin their legacy?
     
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  24. Emilia Clarke was a pretty decent Sarah Connor. The story was...okay and of course the trailers ruined the only twist.

    I would like to have seen more of that version mainly for Matt Smith's embryonic Skynet.
     
  25. David Campbell

    David Campbell Forum Resident

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    Clarke was ok as Sarah. However Jai Courtney was a terrible Kyle Reese. (He's generally not a good actor in most of his roles,with his entertaining turn as Captain Boomerang in Suicide Squad being the lone exception.)

    There were some interesting ideas there and a few decent scenes,but over all Genysis is only marginally better than Salvation, which consider the nadir of the series to date.

    That being said,I'm looking forward to seeing this. I doubt it will do significantly better at the box office than the last two films,but if it's at least a good movie this franchise can at least end on a creative high note. If it revives the franchise and begins a new series of films,I'm open to see where they go with it.
     

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