The appeal of New Country music?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Johnny Action, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. dh46374

    dh46374 Forum Resident

    The social conditions that gave rise to country music, hard work for little money, isolation on the farm or in a small town, singing in church, etc. no longer exist so the music reflects that change.

    The boomers who made Outlaw or progressive country didn't live that life either, but they listened to enough classic country that it strongly influenced their music.

    Current country artists are more influenced by rock and pop music. Their connection to country music is mainly cowboy hats and boots.
     
  2. Huntigula

    Huntigula All I wanted was a Pepsi...

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    It's country music for posers. City dwellers who think they're rural.
     
  3. Huntigula

    Huntigula All I wanted was a Pepsi...

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    "Hey, that guy I think is cool or that girl I'm trying to impress is listening to it. I better be seen listening to it, too!"
     
  4. Tim S

    Tim S Forum Resident

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    Or maybe there's a large audience that likes it? Why is that so incomprehensible?
     
  5. Mmmark

    Mmmark Forum Resident

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    For something a little different, I've been enjoying Sturgill Simpson. As a traditionalist, Colter Wall.
    See the list ghostnotes posted above as well.
     
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  6. Tim S

    Tim S Forum Resident

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    I agree with everything you say, except what I bolded - there is LESS of the kind of lifestyle you describe, but it still predominates in a LOT of areas.
     
  7. Huntigula

    Huntigula All I wanted was a Pepsi...

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  8. Johnny Action

    Johnny Action Forum President Thread Starter

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    My apologies then for assuming the worst.
     
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  9. Tim S

    Tim S Forum Resident

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    Apology accepted - carry on!
     
  10. crookedbill

    crookedbill Forum Resident

    This “study” seems to jump to a lot of subjective, and frankly pretty shallow, conclusions - like a lot of commenters in this thread, content to keep believing and propagating tired cliches and stereotypes about a genre they know next to nothing about.

    For every bro on top-40 pop country radio there are a dozen genuine artists in the independent scene, of all genders and races, keeping country and American roots music alive.
     
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  11. Mirror Image

    Mirror Image Bill Frisell

    But my point is that there’s anything good within ‘new country’ that’s happening. What is happening is exactly what I described which would be homogenized, manufactured corporate rock with a country tinge. This hardly qualifies something as ‘country’ music. What qualifies something as country music, IMHO, is it’s musical language. There are still ways to breathe new life into country music, but a record company telling a musician how to make music and if they don’t give them this muzak then they’re out is hardly breathing new life into the genre.
     
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  12. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

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    Uh yeah thats code talk - a form of virtue signaling - for the r word. As references to masculinity are code for toxic masculinity. The magazine is a hoot. Young college educated authors accessing a world of wiki and online 'studies' - in order to educate the masses.
     
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  13. You don’t say. . . . As opposed to most hip-hop/rap gangster rap? We know we those genres glorify. And it make me want to puke.
     
  14. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

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    And trucks. Big oppressive trucks rolling over feelings - and heating the climate to boot.
     
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  15. Greg Gee

    Greg Gee Forum Resident

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    Yeah, I think you've hit the nail on the head. This is how I feel about new country music. The rock I started listening to in the early 70s consisted of players, real musicians who showcased their talents on an instrument while playing music they loved or wrote themselves. I can respect players of country music like Dwight Yoakam and Pete Anderson, Willie Nelson, Vince Gil, Glen Campbell, Chet Atkins, Bill Monroe, Scruggs & Flatt, and such who make/made their own way. In music, players speak to me more than any vocalist can.
     
  16. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke They got it now, Robbie...

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    What the hell ya gotta drag AC/DC into it for?
     
  17. Mmmark

    Mmmark Forum Resident

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    I think you need to accept that to a certain extent 'good' is a subjective assessment. I agree that within any genre there will be examples of thoughtful, creative and well executed music, and it's a fine line between respecting the traditions of the genre while also saying something new and original. I agree that most pop country is pretty bad, but most pop anything is pretty bad. Pop music is a manufactured commodity used to sell ad time on the radio and move units through hype. But that's what the record industry is (largely) designed to do. That doesn't make it good or bad, it's just how it goes. Most consumers are pretty undiscerning, and so they simply accept what they're given and from a manufacturing and distribution perspective, it's easier and more efficient to focus on homogenous music that neither stimulates nor alienates, that does nothing to challenge or offend the listener. "Good" music is the exact opposite - it's art. Art asks questions, interprets the world in creative ways and seeks to develop an aesthetic. Almost by definition it is divisive, and divisive don't sell.
    Real artists, in this case musicians devoted to craft and substance, haven't gone anywhere, they just don't usually get played on Top 40 radio. In the case of country, I think Trace Adkins may have hit the nail on the head describing the appeal of the genre (in a mainstream Top 40 song, no less!)....
    'Cause it's songs about me
    And who I am
    Songs about loving and living
    And good hearted women and family and God
    Yeah they're all just
    Songs about me'
     
  18. Frangelico

    Frangelico Forum Resident

    What about rock, rap, porn, Hollywood films, television, video games, comic books ?

    BTW, I have zero interest in modern country
     
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  19. Frangelico

    Frangelico Forum Resident

    I live very close to Mandalay Bay. Sounds like you’re blaming innocent people that were killed.
     
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  20. dmiller458

    dmiller458 Forum Resident

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    I'm guessing they haven't heard 2019's biggest hit yet.
     
  21. JeffHunt

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  22. JeffHunt

    JeffHunt Forum Resident

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    Also, the tide is turning at country radio, towards a more traditional sound: Artists like Jon Pardi, Chris Stapleton, and Midland, for example:

     
  23. steviej

    steviej Forum Resident

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    The pool I swim at often has a modern country station on and I sometimes can't help cringing when I pull my head out of the water long enough to hear those "clever" puns about drink another pour on me or what whisky does or tequilla making her clothes come off. It's like these guys are trying to do what the hair metal bands in the 80s got away with 30+ years ago.

    Since this thread will likely get closed, I'll just let the great Steve Earle (who is no saint himself) sum it up best:

    “The best stuff coming out of Nashville is all by women except for Chris Stapleton. He’s great. The guys just wanna sing about getting (expletive) up. They’re just doing hip-hop for people who are afraid of black people. I like the new Kendrick Lamar record, so I’ll just listen to that.”
     
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  24. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke They got it now, Robbie...

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    The chicks love it. And the dudes think its cool. The look of it is just as important as what it sounds like. It is a complete corporate package designed to make money. It's making HUGE money. When i hear it, it actually makes me angry. I cant believe how a person could buy into it and enjoy it. Does that make me a snob? You play a Hank Sr song for most fans of this stuff and it goes right over their head. I've seen it happen. "No, no, check this out, Florida Georgia Line, now THIS is country dude..."
    And I Love AC/DC btw.
     
  25. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

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    Yeah, its like young people have raging hormones and love to party and have fun. What is up with younger people these days?
     
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