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The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" DCC Gold compact disc, Japan or DCC US?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by AudioCoke, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. EdogawaRampo

    EdogawaRampo Senior Member

    Your post reminds of something interesting I read years ago and that is that some industry professionals heard differences in pressings from different factories of the identical digital recording and they couldn't account for it. I believe this was from an account going back decades -- sorry I can't remember the details. But it does underscore something that should be second nature to everyone here -- listen for yourself, judge for yourself.

    PS note on topic: The DCC Pet Sounds is still my favorite, whether on CD or vinyl LP. I have many of the others -- AF, Carl and The Passions/Pet Sounds two-fer LP set, 1980 US Capitol green label and I have had in the past a UK Capitol original (mudfest), an '80s or early '90s Japanese vinyl LP reissue (earbleed bright)...for my money and to my ears the DCC is still the one to beat.
     
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  2. Steve Hoffman

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    It had to do with the start and end times for the songs, nothing to do with sound, that was perfect from the beginning.

    It was my fault, actually. I wanted a slight pause before audio on each track. The pause times are all that changed in the test cuts!
     
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  3. Steve Hoffman

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    Good times (and I ain't kidding. Tange-san was THE best CD manufacturing dude I ever worked with.)
     
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  4. Timos

    Timos Forum resident

    Over time, I’ve come to prefer the ‘accuracy’ of the AF - as you’ve put it - but I also love the warmth of the DCC. To be honest though, there isn’t a lot in it. When I first compared the two I couldn’t really tell any difference - but I picked out each version’s idiosyncrasies eventually.

    Pet Sounds is a warm sounding album - and rightly deserves to be presented as such. I just love the dropout at the start of I’m Waiting For The Day, showing the unmasked state of the tapes. But the fuzzy plunge into the bridge in Wouldn’t It Be Nice on the DCC is something else…

    But you know what? The AF has been my go-to on the iPhone for a while. I’m gonna swap it with the DCC and see if my opinion changes. I’m definitely keeping both versions, though.
     
  5. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

    Location:
    DC area
    This is the important point here. There were a few titles where there are differences - slightly different mastering or different bonus tracks. Otherwise they’re all identical.
     
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  6. And I refer you to this quote by the person who was in charge of this disc. If you’re going to doubt him I really don’t know what else I can say:

     
  7. Espen R

    Espen R Forum Resident

    Location:
    Norway
    A question about Jpn Lp pressings in the past. I know many favour them in terms of sound quality. Not all of course.
    It is likely to think that most, maybe all of them are cut from jpn dub tapes, not original Us or uk masters?
     
  8. EdogawaRampo

    EdogawaRampo Senior Member

    Who said anyone was doubting him?
     
  9. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

    All from from analog dubs.
     
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  10. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...


    The great Barry Diament, who unfortunately left the Forum because he thought some of his work was unfairly criticized, said he could not figure out why, but that the CDs that he mastered that were pressed at Specialty ("SRC") sounded better than the ones that were pressed at other plants.
     
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  11. EdogawaRampo

    EdogawaRampo Senior Member

    Interesting. I'm in no way qualified to analyze how or why something that is a regular occurrence with analog records would happen with CDs, but I just keep thinking that despite them being digital, the equipment involved in the chain affects, or can affect the sound, just as it does on my home audio system. Just a guess.
     
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  12. Timos

    Timos Forum resident

    It’s a shame that Barry Diament has left - I’m not overly familiar with his work, but I love his early 90’s Bob Marley remastering. Those are the go-to versions, for me. Sorry for the thread digression!
     

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