The Beatles 1 and 1+ : DVD, Blu-ray, CD, Vinyl releases

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  1. HoundsOBurkittsville

    HoundsOBurkittsville Deep Wine List Sonic Equivalency

    Columbus, Ohio
    Poor gal's simply suffering from another good ol' Beatle nervous breakdown.

    No big deal.

    Some of us experience those daily 'round here :goodie: ...while wracking our brains.
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  2. theMess

    theMess Forum Resident

    Kent, UK
    You could very well be correct; from the sound of it, it is 'McCartney-esque'.

    As for 'Don't Let Me Down', I think that it could easily be credited as Lennon/McCartney/Harrison; Paul and George took a small fragment of a song and built it into arguably the best 'rock' song of the Get Back sessions.
  3. mikeja75

    mikeja75 Forum Resident

    I finished ripping all the audio from the two Blu Ray discs and put together the following playlist with a focus on fitting in the unique studio remixes from the DVD that weren't featured on the 1 remixed CD:

    Beatles 1+

    RED = Beatles 1 CD (Remixed)
    BLUE = Beatles 1 or + DVD

    1. Love Me Do
    2. Twist and Shout (+)
    3. From Me To You
    4. She Loves You
    5. I Want To Hold Your Hand
    6. Can't Buy Me Love
    7. A Hard Day's Night
    8. I Feel Fine
    9. Eight Days a Week
    10. Ticket To Ride
    11. Help!
    12. Yesterday
    13. Day Tripper
    14. We Can Work It Out
    15. Paperback Writer

    16. Rain (+)
    17. Yellow Submarine
    18. Eleanor Rigby

    19. Tomorrow Never Knows / Within You Without You (LOVE) (+)
    20. Penny Lane
    21. Strawberry Fields (+)
    22. A Day in the Life (+)

    23. All You Need Is Love
    24. Hello, Goodbye
    25. Lady Madonna

    26. Hey Bulldog (+)
    27. Hey Jude
    28. Revolution (1)
    29. Get Back
    30. The Ballad of John and Yoko
    31. Something
    32. Come Together
    33. Let It Be

    34. Don't Let Me Down (+)
    35. The Long and Winding Road
    36. Free As A Bird (+)
    37. Real Love (+)

    Bonus Tracks:
    38. Hey Jude (Beatles + with Live Vocals) (+)
    39. Get Back (DVD Single Mix) 3:12 (1)
    40. Get Back (DVD Album Mix) 2:39 (+)
    41. The Long and Winding Road (Beatles...Naked) (1)

    Did I miss anything significant from a studio perspective? I chose to leave off the early period live tracks since I focused on the studio material and the fidelity of these recordings doesn't work as well with the remixed studio tracks.

    And I'm 50/50 on including "Revolution" with the rest of the remixed studio tracks, but I couldn't resist. Where it lacks in fidelity it makes up for in the smack in the face that opening guitar gives ya.

    It might be sacrilegious to include the Love track "Tomorrow Never Knows/Within You Without" with the rest of the period tracks, but it works great as a bridge from the end of the early touring period to the Pepper/studio years.

    I included the single mix of "Get Back" from the DVD as a bonus since the mix differs from the CD -- the lead guitar (largely in the right channel) is slightly louder and the song is better for it, imo.
    I found the DVD tracks of "like" tracks to be slightly louder than their CD counterparts, but just slightly.

    And man, "Real Love" sounds so different -- it's like a new song to me!

  4. AdamChanSiuLung

    AdamChanSiuLung Forum Resident

    Am I the only Beatles fan who hasn't ordered this yet and is only looking at the 1+ DVD format and not Blu-Ray? So what am I waiting for? Well I'm hoping to find a substantial markdown for Black Friday. This is a very bad time for me so I shouldn't be spending any money at all.

    As for choosing the DVD over BR, I don't really care about the picture quality. I'm someone who up until early 2014 or maybe this year, was watching TV on a set bought in 1980. Yes, it's nice to have a bigger screen and the picture looks nicer (and the only reason why I have a big screen HD TV is because my friend gave it to me, otherwise I'd still be using the 1980 set), but BR is an upgrade that I don't need.

    It's sort of like vinyl and CDs. I only started buying CDs when the music I liked wasn't made on vinyl anymore so I'll probably switch to BR when they stop releasing products on DVD.
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  5. nikh33

    nikh33 Forum Resident

    Liverpool, England
    Yes, it was October 1974 in LA. John plays Jet instead and says "That was one of Paul's, wasn't that a good one"
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  6. nikh33

    nikh33 Forum Resident

    Liverpool, England
    It's the same clip, just not reversed. Now, it's 'right way round' and it's John saying "Turned out nice again" which was British ukulele banjo-playing comedian George Formby's catchphrase in the 1940s and 50s. On the 1995 version, it's played in reverse and does indeed sound a lot like "Made for John Lennon", though it's just backwards noise. Which is kinda sweet!

    George Harrison was a big Formby fan and used to attend the George Formby Appreciation Society Annual Convention where a hundred middle aged men played ukuleles. True fact.

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  7. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Forum Resident

    Mr. Kite's vocal melody has characteristics of both John and Paul but the way the chords are used in more of a melodic fashion and the ragtag cadences sounds like typical John way of writing. But like you said, some of the vocalizing could be from Paul. We may never know........:D

    A lot of John's songs show little concern for harmonic root relationships in the chords. He had an amazing way of somehow making the unusual sound familiar.
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  8. theMess

    theMess Forum Resident

    Kent, UK
    Thanks for the information; I had never heard that before. I knew that he liked the BOTR album as a whole, but I didn't know that he had spoken positively about 'Jet'. It is interesting that he had wanted to play 'Monkberry Moon Delight' in 1974, 3 years after 'Ram' was released. I know that he criticised 'Ram' for the songs that mentioned him, but he did seem to be a fan of the album; I remember him praising 'Eat At Home' as being like a Buddy Holly song, and then there is the tape of him singing 'hands across the water' on his birthday.

    It is such a shame that we never got to see John sing songs like 'Jet' with Paul. One of the most interesting things to consider when thinking about a potential Beatles reunion is what solo songs they could have played together live.
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  9. johnny moondog 909

    johnny moondog 909 Beatles-Lennon & Classic rock fan

    Couldn't they take the background studio vocals from the slow Resolution 1 and use pro tools to make them fit the single version ?
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  10. Dinstun

    Dinstun Forum Resident

    From the "Free As A Bird" video:

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    One of these is from the NTSC Anthology DVD and the other from the new Blu-ray. If this is an indication of the improvement we could expect from an Anthology Blu-ray, I really don't think they should bother.
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  11. Even made it into a film title:
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  12. misko

    misko Forum Resident

    Philadelphia, Pa.
    I think many of us purchased the Blu Ray for the sound quality and the picture was secondary.
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  13. supermd

    supermd Forum Resident

    Campbell, CA
    Not I. I got it for both, but mostly for video.
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  14. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Forum Resident

    Odense Denmark.
    Easily. Imagine the outcry though. The forum postings would have caused a meltdown of the entire internet.
  15. AdamChanSiuLung

    AdamChanSiuLung Forum Resident

    I've never even thought of that, but is the sound on BR better than standard CDs?
  16. gja586

    gja586 Forum Resident

    Gogledd Cymru
    I've over 200 Beatles CDs, but based on the comments on this thread I decided not to bother with this. However, I saw it in the local supermarket and (call me shallow!) fell for the yellow cover - it's lovely. Plus, the digipack is a "good" one, with plastic inserts and not just like a miniature LP sleeve, which I really don't like. So, I now have the CD+DVD.

    I've watched the DVD and listened to the CD both up to Eleanor Rigby. Apart from the EDAW drums, I noticed few material differences compared to what I'm used to hearing, so I'm clearly not a true audiophile. However, Day Tripper and Paperback Writer do sound good to my ears. :agree:

    Is anyone else as smitten with the yellow cover?
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  17. John B

    John B Once Blue Gort,<br>now just blue.

    Toronto, Canada
    Listening to the take on Anthology, you hear Paul directing the recording (of Mr. Kite) in a constructive way. He appears to have a stronger idea than John as to wear the song is going with a circus-y feel. Paul's bass playing adds to the desired atmosphere. He's in the role of musical director. Don't know if that helps.
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  18. Beatlened

    Beatlened Forum Resident

    Dublin, Ireland
    I really like a lot of that stuff myself but Press To Play, Memory Almost Full, Driving Rain, Broadstreet, New .... Macca couldn't have thought that John would approve most of those songs, do ya think?
  19. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Setting the controls for the heart of the sun :)

    I have just done my own remix of Free As A Bird using the original single version :)
  20. theMess

    theMess Forum Resident

    Kent, UK
    Yes I do think that he would mainly approve; John liked Paul as a songwriter. After all, he knew that Paul was a major talent and that is why he asked him to join the Quarry Men in the first place.

    Why wouldn't John like a series of albums that are more critically acclaimed than Paul's 70's albums? Paul has had mainly very good press since Flaming Pie in 1997.
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  21. mikeja75

    mikeja75 Forum Resident

    All they had to do was stick "Love Outtake" at the end of it and no one would blink an eye.
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  22. jricc

    jricc Forum Resident

    Jersey Shore
    From Beatlefan:

    Beatles "1" Soundscan numbers for the week ending 11/12/2015:

    Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart
    Re-entry at #6
    39,849 total sales

    Top DVD Music Videos Chart
    Debut at #3

    Top Internet Chart
    Debut at #1
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  23. Clark V Kauffman

    Clark V Kauffman Forum Resident

    Des Moines, Iowa
    I do like the yellow cover more than the traditional red one.

    As for the musical content, I like the fact that they finally fixed the big , gaping "hole" in the sound-field of "All You Need Is Love," right where the song transitions from the "La Marseillaise" intro to the vocals.

    But I really miss the bongos on "A Hard Day's Night." They've been mixed out of the song almost completely, and I really feel they help propel the song forward.
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  24. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Setting the controls for the heart of the sun :)

    That is the first thing I noticed as well, I wonder why ? :(
  25. Mkirk

    Mkirk Forum Resident

    It's also worth noting that Paul's corrections were submitted to Hit Parade and they told him it wouldn't be appropriate to have a whole list and said what was the main one. So he went with correcting In My life. No I don't remember exactly where I read that now tbh, I only remember that I did see that.

    I have always taken it as 100% confirmation that Paul did write the music and John knew it, that that correction was made and was not contested by John. This at a time when if Paul said something in an interview wholly unconnected to John, that John disagreed with, John would fire off a letter insisting on a right of reply to the relevant magazine. This correction was in a John Lennon interview and he said nothing. Then later when he talked about In My Life he said Paul wrote the middle eight, only there is no real middle eight as such. John knew Paul wrote the music, Paul knew it too. I've never known why this is a controversy. That correction would never have been allowed unchallenged if John really thought it was a lie.

    Oh and btw, I'm too lazy to post it all, but if you compare what John said about who wrote what in Playboy in 1980 to what he said in Hit Parade - he changed what he said about a lot of songs. So I've never thought the Hit Parade interview was worth much as in 1972 John was in a certain 'space' and I think his comments in 1980 were closer to the truth fwiw.
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