The Beatles "1" Compilation. Why So Successful when Past Masters Wasn't?

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  1. EmceeEscher

    EmceeEscher Forum Resident

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    I don't think there's a way to put all the Beatles singles on one CD. So there had to be a filtering system in place. #1 is as good of a filter as any, except if Paul, George and Ringo had gotten together to choose their favorite singles and come up with a track list themselves, which would have been cool.

    That said, Apple could have done a 2CD Beatles Singles Collection—taking the New Order Substance approach of A Sides on CD1, and B Sides on CD2, chronological order on both discs. (Paul sort of did this with his 2CD Wings Hits & History).

    But not sure it would have sold as much as 1 being a single disc, easier to use and less expensive. We'll never know.
     
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  2. finslaw

    finslaw muzak to my ears

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    Past Masters + #1 = All UK A's and B's, plus all US #1 A's and B's.

    I had to take some liberties putting a later released US B-Side ahead of the UK B-Side, as well as putting the B-Side before the A-Side in some cases. Sequencing All You Need is Love after Penny Lane (and Hello Goodbye after All You Need is Love) has, and always will, suck.

    CD 1 (79 minutes)

    Love Me Do
    P.S. I Love You
    Please Please Me
    Ask Me Why
    From Me To You
    Thank You Girl
    She Loves You
    I'll Get You
    I Want To Hold Your Hand
    I Saw Her Standing There
    This Boy
    Can't Buy Me Love
    You Can't Do That
    A Hard Day's Night
    I Should Have Known Better
    Things We Said Today
    I Feel Fine
    She's A Woman
    Eight Days a Week
    I Don't Want to Spoil the Party
    Ticket To Ride
    Yes It Is
    Help!
    I'm Down
    Yesterday
    Act Naturally
    We Can Work It Out
    Day Tripper
    Paperback Writer
    Rain
    Yellow Submarine
    Eleanor Rigby

    CD2 (77 minutes)

    Strawberry Fields Forever
    Penny Lane
    Baby You're A Rich Man
    All You Need Is Love
    I Am The Walrus
    Hello, Goodbye
    Lady Madonna
    The Inner Light
    Hey Jude
    Revolution
    Get Back (single version)
    Don't Let Me Down
    The Ballad Of John And Yoko
    Old Brown Shoe
    Something
    Come Together
    Let It Be (single version)
    You Know My Name
    The Long and Winding Road
    For You Blue
    Free as a Bird (if you want, but adding Real Love puts it 50 seconds over.)
     
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  3. Chemically altered

    Chemically altered Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    "1+" will be featured in the next thread. I wanted to keep them separate.
     
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  4. Chemically altered

    Chemically altered Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    To give you something to complain about, perhaps? ;)
     
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  5. KJTC

    KJTC Forum Resident

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    Exactly. If it had been released more like 1991-1992, it would've benefitted from the era when people were buying CDs like crazy. 1 released right as CD sales started to decline.

    It still sold massively, but if there had been a single disc Beatles hits collection available ten years earlier, it would be the biggest selling album of all time by a wide margin, IMO.
     
  6. Hombre

    Hombre Forum Resident

    Or you could expand outside UK and US to include #1 singles in other countries. For instance, Michelle/Girl and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da/While My Guitar Gently Weeps reached #1 in several countries.

    But my idea of a singles collection would only include the UK A's & B's, as a complement to the UK albums (not as effective as Past Masters, but more accurate historically).
     
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  7. blackdograilroad

    blackdograilroad Forum Resident

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    1. Single CD.
    2. All the number ones on it (nearly).
    3. Very different purpose from Past Masters. Aimed to include those with a casual interest; PM aimed at those who have all the original albums.
     
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  8. William Smart

    William Smart 21st Century Schizoid Man

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    And here I thought it was for thoughtful discussions you... You Rapscallion You!
     
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  9. Hombre

    Hombre Forum Resident

    How would you divide the double-A side singles?

    According to the CD singles releases, "We Can Work It Out", "Yellow Submarine", "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Something" should be included in the first CD; and "Day Tripper", "Eleanor Rigby", "Penny Lane" and "Come Together" should be included in the second CD.

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  10. Finchingfield

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    And don't forget the remaining 'other' Beatles #1's in the USA, on Cash Box and Record World, but not Billboard:

    Twist and Shout #1 for 1 week each on Cash Box and Record World/Music Vendor (b-side = There's A Place)
    Nowhere Man #1 for 2 weeks on Record World (b-side = What Goes On)

    Then there could be an argument made to consider other Beatles records that did not achieve #1 because they were blocked by Beatles records already at #1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5, ha.
     
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  11. Chemically altered

    Chemically altered Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Hmm. I never thought of that. :sigh:
     
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  12. Finchingfield

    Finchingfield Forum Resident

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    You can also say EMI missed the mark, and more sales, by not doing separate UK and US releases of '1', featuring only the #1's of each country. Then all the real Beatles nuts would have to get both copies. Yep, a missed opportunity, ha...
     
  13. Hombre

    Hombre Forum Resident

    But that had already been done with 20 Greatest Hits.
     
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  14. EmceeEscher

    EmceeEscher Forum Resident

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    Yeah like that, I guess. 1st track on the double A side would go on CD1 and the second track on a double A side would go on CD2. I suppose!
     
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  15. William Smart

    William Smart 21st Century Schizoid Man

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    Looks like a box set's in order here. :D
     
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  16. flyingdutchman

    flyingdutchman Senior Member

    Well, hey, you're the one who created the thread to compare the two. They're not really comparable in any way.
     
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  17. Chemically altered

    Chemically altered Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    :rolleyes:
     
  18. flyingdutchman

    flyingdutchman Senior Member

    :rolleyes:
     
  19. LarsO

    LarsO Forum Resident

    You’re quite right about the moment of sales starting to decline, but it was also pretty much at the peak. Way more CD’s were sold in 2000 than 91-92.

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  20. SJB

    SJB Beloved Parasitic Nuisance

    Without having read the other posts, here's my gut reaction to the OP's question:

    Past Masters was a shelf-clearing exercise, containing every non-album track regardless of merit or recognition; I found out about through ICE magazine, I believe, and my recollection is that it was a relatively soft release. 1 was a very heavily promoted compilation that consisted of nothing but hits.
     
  21. dwilpower

    dwilpower Forum Resident

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    A very simple answer. Look at the album charts and some of the best selling albums of all time. You will see a stack of best of/greatest hits compilations in there. Why? Because the majority of folks are not devoted fans but know and love the hits. They like the idea of a single album that contains all those big hits in a readily available easily accessed disc. "Casual" fans like the hits and have almost zero interest in all the other stuff. That's the way it's always been.
     
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  22. jl151080

    jl151080 Senior Member

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    Past Masters Two was my gateway into The Beatles official output, having been hooked in by the Anthology project in 1996.

    Past Masters 2 gave me the opportunity to have some of the key hits of the later era, in addition to some more obscure stuff which I was interesting in having enjoyed Anthology 2 and wanting more.

    The Red and Blue albums were priced around £25-30 each by record stores in the mid nineties, so that wasn't a sensible option for me at the time, as a teenager with limited money.

    Having the majority of the key hits on one disc at an affordable price. it's easy to see why '1' was such a success upon release in 2000. Apple should have arguably released it far sooner, around the time of Anthology to capitalise on the renewed interest in the band. The Anthology albums were never meant to be an introduction to The Beatles but for many, myself included, that's what they became.

    I remember '1' coincided with the launch of the official Beatles website, which was quite advanced for the day. From memory, you could click on various locations, including various aspects of 3 Savile Row (eg the roof, the street) and there would be various photo / video / audio elements that would play.

    I remember the elderly lady that featured in 'Get Back' ("I just can't see that it makes sense") was one of them.
     
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  23. Cimrya Deal

    Cimrya Deal Forum Resident

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    Because 1 is a greatest hits compilation and Past Masters isn't.

    Just a reminder: Past Masters was just a way to have all the officially released tracks not from albums all in one place.
     
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  24. jl151080

    jl151080 Senior Member

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    They are both good compilations, but serve a completely different purpose.
     
  25. mBen989

    mBen989 Senior Member

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    Here are the Beatles singles CD-R’s I burned using the 09/09/09 sets and other things.

    CD 1
    Love Me Do
    P.S. I Love You
    Please Please Me
    Ask Me Why
    From Me to You
    Thank You Girl
    She Loves You
    I'll Get You
    I Want to Hold Your Hand
    This Boy
    I Saw Her Standing There
    Twist and Shout
    There's a Place
    Can't Buy Me Love
    You Can't Do That
    A Hard Day's Night
    Things We Said Today
    I Should Have Known Better
    And I Love Her
    If I Fell
    I'll Cry Instead (yes, I used the version from Something New in The Capitol Albums set)
    I'm Happy Just to Dance with You
    Matchbox
    Slow Down
    I Feel Fine
    She's A Woman
    Eight Days A Week
    I Don't Want to Spoil the Party

    CD 2
    Ticket to Ride
    Yes It Is
    Help!
    I'm Down
    Day Tripper
    We Can Work It Out
    Nowhere Man
    What Goes On
    Paperback Writer
    Rain
    Eleanor Rigby
    Yellow Submarine (these were flipped by mistake)
    Strawberry Fields Forever
    Penny Lane
    All You Need is Love
    Baby, You're a Rich Man
    Hello Goodbye
    I Am the Walrus
    Lady Madonna
    The Inner Light

    CD 3
    Hey Jude (mono)
    Revolution (mono)
    Get Back (stereo because I'm American)
    Don't Let Me Down (ditto)
    The Ballad of John and Yoko!
    Old Brown Shoe
    Come Together
    Something (these got flipped because I had Abbey Road on the brain)
    Let It Be
    You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) (mono)
    The Long and Winding Road
    For You Blue
    Got to Get You Into My Life
    Helter Skelter
    Back in the U.S.S.R.
    The Beatles Movie Medley
    Free as a Bird
    Real Love
     
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