The Beatles Decca sessions .......UGH!

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  1. TheLazenby

    TheLazenby Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    That boot would be "L.S. Bumble Bee". And yes, I think the song is about a minute longer there (and very, VERY muffled quality).
     
  2. forthlin

    forthlin Member Chris & Vickie Cyber Support Team

    God bless the late Joe Pope. If you weren't around at the time, you can't imagine the thrill of the unreleased tracks issued on colored vinyl with color pic sleeves every few months. It was 1977/78 and the Fabs were so sorely missed. I too remember the Love Of The Loved boot (with PS!) Compared to a lot of the other unauthorized stuff out there at the time Joe's Decca singles were manna from heaven (* "from heaven" would seem to be redundant, where else does "manna" come from?--Publix?)
     
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  3. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Funny, I just played the DECCA stuff with a friend who hadn't heard them before in good sound. My old off speed Deccagone 45's were the greatest thing that ever happened to me in 1977, I couldn't believe it, hearing LOVE OF THE LOVED, LIKE DREAMERS DO and HELLO LITTLE GIRL for the first time by the Beatles. Quite a thrill. Then I found that picture disc LP that had all the songs on it, played that for years.

    After hearing what is damn close to the actual tape this year with actual deep bass and correct speed it makes me wish that the stuff could be released in good sound. It's possible to do, but it will never happen..
     
  4. Muzyck

    Muzyck Pardon my scruffy hospitality

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    I first heard the songs on this boot.

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  5. Neil Anderson

    Neil Anderson Forum Resident

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    Depressing thought. I've put off buying a bootleg in hopes that Apple would eventually do a good quality official release..
     
  6. bekayne

    bekayne Senior Member

    In signing Brian Poole & the Tremeloes instead?
     
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  7. dewey02

    dewey02 Forum Resident

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    I don't know if the Tremeloes audition tape is "out there" so we can't compare the performances of the two bands. But the Tremeloes were a very good, solid band. Lots of Youtube video is available.

    Brian Poole and the Tremeloes had a couple of hits in 1963, by covering R&B songs - Twist and Shout and Do You Love Me, the latter going to #1. They were a good band and could sing and play well. They had chart success in England in 1963-1966, but really hit their stride in 1967 with big hits that were also successful in the U.S. - Here Comes My Baby and Silence is Golden, but by then they had left Decca.

    Poole left the band in 1966, but they actually got more successful after that.

    Listen to this live performance with intricate harmony:

     
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  8. BEAThoven

    BEAThoven Forum Resident

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    I can appreciate that... to a very small degree.

    January 1st was a business day -- and Decca probably called the shot on when this session would happen -- take it or leave it.

    Think about it -- It's 1961, you're in a struggling band from the North, who no one really cares about or has even even heard of south of Garston, and your new manager has set up a recording audition with one of the largest record labels in the country down in London... a major coup if there ever was one in English rock 'n' roll management history at the time ... and you decide to drink 10 pints of Watney's the night before.

    Now this is just me, of course, and there is no true documentation or evidence of just what the Beatles did on the night of 12/31/61, but... f*** the Beatles if they couldn't keep their heads on straight and their boozing affected what was the most important moment of their music career at this point. Jeez, they all wanted music to be their occupation, right? They're not kids at this point, right? They were all over the age of 18...
     
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  9. Seltarb

    Seltarb Forum Resident

    Nearly all...;)
     
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  10. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    Well George was still 18; not over 18.... ;)
     
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  11. EddieMann

    EddieMann I used to be a king...

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    When I was 18 I would have done exactly the same thing. But that's just me as well.
     
  12. Commander Lucius Emery

    Commander Lucius Emery Forum Resident

    Wasn't there somebody from Decca who had the opportunity to see them in The Cavern but decided not to go because the weather was lousy?
     
  13. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    I can't say I really blame them. All things considered I'd probably not want to go out in bad weather to see some unknown club band, either!
     
  14. BEAThoven

    BEAThoven Forum Resident

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    No. Unlike George Martin and Parlophone, someone from Decca did actually see them live before they arrived at the studio -- Dick Rowe had sent A&R assistant Mike Smith up to the Cavern to see a gig.
     
  15. guppy270

    guppy270 Forum Resident

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    Isn't there a Beatles BBC session "interview" in which the announcer refers to the man that turned them down (no names mentioned) as "kicking himself", and John says something like "I hope he kicks himself to death"? I don't recall exactly and my great BBC Archives book is at home, but I recall hearing that and thinking "oof, that's a bit harsh..."
     
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  16. BeSteVenn

    BeSteVenn FOMO Resident

    I believe that there is an account in Hunter Davies' Beatles authorized biography from 1968 where one of the Beatles talks about going to Trafalgar Square on the evening of December 31,1961 and watching the drunks fall into the fountain.
    Of course, it's an authorized biography, so those drunks could have been the Beatles!
     
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  17. kelhard

    kelhard Forum Resident

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    This was my first exposure to the Decca material. I remember buying this at my local Zellers (a Canadian department store similar to K-Mart) or A&A Records for $8.99 in 1983. I was 11 at the time. Later on, in 1997, when I went to see the Pete Best Band play a live show in my town, I got this signed by Mr. Best, along with 2 more records, both of Sheridan material. All the songs are in their original form (not edited to make them longer) but more than likely off-speed.
     
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  18. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    I really like that cover! It would make for an awesome t-shirt. :)
     
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  19. dino77

    dino77 Forum Resident

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    Is it likely there will be an Apple release of these recordings eventually? After all, it's an album's worth of Beatles studio recordings.
     
  20. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Highly, highly unlikely. The material isn't very commercial or marketable. The Decca material is not The Beatles that they want the public to think of.
     
  21. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    I really doubt it. Apple is pretty picky about what they do release, and the material is substandard. Plus, ten of the tracks are in public domain in the EU already.
     
  22. cwitt1980

    cwitt1980 Senior Member

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    Whoa. 'Bout time someone spoke the truth. Excellent review! Now go practice your cursive.
     
  23. JohnO

    JohnO Senior Member

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    Eh wot? Have you written elsewhere about this?
     
  24. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Odense Denmark.
    The Decca sessions falls under "i like them because it's Beatles history" for me.

    I don't ever listen to it in it's entirety but when my iPod shuffles to one of the Decca songs i enjoy it for the historical value.
     
  25. owsley

    owsley Senior Member

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    The MacLen compositions are the only things I really like on this session, particularly Love Of The Loved. The guitars just sound so lightweight and tinny, there's no power to any of the performances in general. Almost sounds like they were given instructions not to play too loud. Biggest Beatles mystery of all time has to be how they improved exponentially in just 6 months by the time of their EMI audition.
     
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