The Beatles U.S. Albums box set - your impressions...

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  1. Hawkman

    Hawkman Supercar Gort Staff Thread Starter

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    The TWELVE parts of the Beatles Capitol CDs threads have become too unwieldy for members to sift through to find pertinent information. It's also wandered too many times into personal attacks and general off-topic discussion. We are NOT continuing with a part 13.

    Instead, THIS thread will be used for members to voice their impressions of the U.S ALBUMS BOX SET, now that many have it or are about to receive it.

    We are going to monitor this thread closely. ANYTHING beyond this discussion WILL be deleted. We ask for your impressions of the box set ONLY. If you enjoy it, great. If you don't, great. Discuss it. BUT STICK TO ACTUAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOX SET. We also ask that any member who sees a post that violates forum rules or the spirit of this thread to use the 'Report' button to report it to us immediately and we will deal with it as we see fit.

    It is what it is. We all know by now what tapes and what mixes were used. For clarity's sake I am going to ask forum member slane to repost his excellent breakdown of what mixes and versions were used here just one more time.


    Also included is a poll so that members can get an idea of what others think in one glance without sifting through the over 11,000 posts in the past 12 parts.


    And begin....
     
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  2. JJ3810

    JJ3810 Forum Resident

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    I'm very happy with it. Having good, clean-sounding versions of the songs in the order I remember them is great.
     
  3. bubba-ho-tep

    bubba-ho-tep Forum Resident

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    Apple shouldn't have used the '87 Help! and Rubber Soul remixes, but it's fine otherwise.
     
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  4. 2scoops

    2scoops Forum Resident

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    Not owning either of the 2009 boxes, this is ideal for me. I prefer the earlier recordings, to have them in mono and stereo is a bonus. I've been listening for a couple of hours now and I'm very impressed by the sound quality. Love the packaging too! It's a thumbs up from me.
     
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  5. Moonbeam Skies

    Moonbeam Skies Forum Resident

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    I voted it's okay. Reason being I'm sure it sounds great. But I won't buy any of it because I already have the Capitol Albums box sets, which feature the original mixes I grew up listening to. There's nothing in it I need.
     
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  6. slane

    slane Forum Resident

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    Mixes/Sources used on US Albums CDs.

    Green= Same basic Mix used on CD as on original LP
    Red= Different Mix used on CD


    2009= Sourced from 2009 Remasters (Mono & Stereo)
    Remix= 1987 Stereo Remix, sourced from 2009 Remasters

    * Folddown of stereo mix used on original mono LP
    ** Duophonic/Fake Stereo used on original stereo LP
    The CDs have replaced the above with true mono and true stereo instead.

    US Unique Mixes in bold and underlined (even when they haven't been included on the CDs)

    Hope everyone can understand this!


    MEET THE BEATLES

    MONO
    I Want To Hold Your Hand (2009)
    I Saw Her Standing There (2009)
    This Boy (2009)
    *It Won't Be Long (2009)
    *All I've Got To Do (2009)
    *All My Loving (2009)
    *Don't Bother Me (2009)
    *Little Child (2009)
    *Till There Was You (2009)
    *Hold Me Tight (2009)
    *I Wanna Be Your Man (2009)
    *Not A Second Time (2009)

    STEREO
    **I Want To Hold Your Hand (2009)
    I Saw Her Standing There (2009)
    **This Boy (2009)
    It Won't Be Long (2009)
    All I've Got To Do (2009)
    All My Loving (2009)
    Don't Bother Me (2009)
    Little Child (2009)
    Till There Was You (2009)
    Hold Me Tight (2009)
    I Wanna Be Your Man (2009)
    Not A Second Time (2009)


    THE BEATLES SECOND ALBUM

    MONO
    *Roll Over Beethoven (2009)
    *Thank You Girl (2009)
    *You Really Got A Hold On Me (2009)
    *Devil In Her Heart (2009)
    *Money (2009)
    You Can't Do That (2009)
    Long Tall Sally (Unique Mix)
    I Call Your Name (Unique Mix)

    *Please Mr Postman (2009)
    I'll Get You (2009)
    She Loves You (2009)

    STEREO (Note: all mixes stripped of additional Capitol reverb, even on the 'correct' basic mixes listed here)
    Roll Over Beethoven (2009)
    Thank You Girl (2009)
    You Really Got A Hold On Me (2009)
    Devil In Her Heart (2009)
    Money (2009)
    **You Can't Do That (2009)
    Long Tall Sally (2009)
    I Call Your Name (2009)

    Please Mr Postman (2009)
    **I'll Get You (2009 Mono)
    **She Loves You (2009 Mono)


    SOMETHING NEW

    MONO
    I'll Cry Instead (Unique Mix)
    Things We Said Today (2009)
    Any Time At All (Unique Mix)
    When I Get Home (Unique Mix)

    Slow Down (2009)
    Matchbox (2009)
    Tell Me Why (2009)
    And I Love Her (Unique Mix)
    I'm Happy Just To Dance With You (2009)
    If I Fell (2009)
    *Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand (2009)

    STEREO
    I'll Cry Instead (2009)
    Things We Said Today (2009)
    Any Time At All (2009)
    When I Get Home (2009)
    Slow Down (2009)
    Matchbox (2009)
    Tell Me Why (2009)
    And I Love Her (2009)
    I'm Happy Just To Dance With You (2009)
    If I Fell (2009)
    Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand (2009)


    BEATLES '65

    MONO
    No Reply (2009)
    I'm A Loser (2009)
    Baby's In Black (2009)
    Rock And Roll Music (2009)
    I'll Follow The Sun (2009)
    Mr Moonlight (2009)
    Honey Don't (2009)
    I'll Be Back (Unique Mix)
    She's A Woman (Unique Mix)
    I Feel Fine (Unique Mix)

    Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (2009)

    STEREO
    No Reply (2009)
    I'm A Loser (2009)
    Baby's In Black (2009)
    Rock And Roll Music (2009)
    I'll Follow The Sun (2009)
    Mr Moonlight (2009)
    Honey Don't (2009)
    I'll Be Back (2009)
    **She's A Woman (2009)
    **I Feel Fine (2009)
    Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (2009)


    THE EARLY BEATLES

    MONO (entire original mono LP was a folddown of the stereo LP)
    *Love Me Do (2009) *near enough, as the fold of the EMI fake stereo on the LP reproduced the original mono mix*
    *Twist And Shout (2009)
    *Anna (2009)
    *Chains (2009)
    *Boys (2009)
    *Ask Me Why (2009)
    *Please Please Me (2009)
    *PS I Love You (2009) *near enough, as Love Me Do*
    *Baby It's You (2009)
    *A Taste Of Honey (2009)
    *Do You Want To Know A Secret (2009)

    STEREO
    **Love Me Do (2009 Mono)
    Twist And Shout (2009)
    Anna (2009)
    Chains (2009)
    Boys (2009)
    Ask Me Why (2009)
    Please Please Me (2009)
    **PS I Love You (2009 Mono)
    Baby It's You (2009)
    A Taste Of Honey (2009)
    Do You Want To Know A Secret (2009)


    BEATLES VI

    MONO
    Kansas City (2009)
    Eight Days A Week (2009)
    You Like Me Too Much (2009)
    Bad Boy (2009)
    I Don't Want To Spoil The Party (2009)
    Words Of Love (2009)
    What You're Doing (2009)
    Yes It Is (2009)
    Dizzy Miss Lizzy (2009)
    Tell Me What You See (2009)
    Every Little Thing (2009)

    STEREO
    Kansas City (2009)
    Eight Days A Week (2009)
    You Like Me Too Much (Remix)
    Bad Boy (2009)
    I Don't Want To Spoil The Party (2009)
    Words Of Love (2009)
    What You're Doing (2009)
    **Yes It Is (2009)
    Dizzy Miss Lizzy (Remix)
    Tell Me What You See (Remix)
    Every Little Thing (2009)


    RUBBER SOUL

    MONO
    I've Just Seen A Face (2009)
    Norwegian Wood (2009)
    You Won't See Me (2009)
    Think For Yourself (2009)
    The Word (2009)
    Michelle (Unique Mix)
    It's Only Love (2009)
    Girl (2009)
    I'm Looking Through You (2009)
    In My Life (2009)
    Wait (2009)
    Run For Your Life (2009)

    STEREO
    I've Just Seen A Face (Remix)
    Norwegian Wood (Remix)
    You Won't See Me (Remix)
    Think For Yourself (Remix)
    The Word (Unique Mix)
    Michelle (Remix)
    It's Only Love (Remix)
    Girl (Remix)
    I'm Looking Through You (Unique Mix)
    In My Life (Remix)
    Wait (Remix)
    Run For Your Life (Remix)


    YESTERDAY AND TODAY

    MONO
    *Drive My Car (2009)
    I'm Only Sleeping (Unique Mix)
    Nowhere Man (2009)
    Doctor Robert (Unique Mix)
    Yesterday (2009)
    Act Naturally (2009)
    And Your Bird Can Sing (Unique Mix)
    *If I Needed Someone (2009)
    We Can Work It Out (2009)
    What Goes On (2009)
    Day Tripper (2009)

    STEREO (Based on the True Stereo LP)
    Drive My Car (Remix)
    I'm Only Sleeping (2009)
    Nowhere Man (Remix)
    Doctor Robert (2009)
    Yesterday (Remix)
    Act Naturally (Remix)
    And Your Bird Can Sing (2009)
    If I Needed Someone (Remix)
    We Can Work It Out (Unique Mix)
    What Goes On (Remix)
    Day Tripper (Unique Mix)


    A HARD DAY'S NIGHT

    MONO
    A Hard Day's Night (2009)
    Tell Me Why (2009)
    I'll Cry Instead (Unique Mix) (same as on mono Something New)
    I'm Happy Just To Dance With You (2009)
    I Should Have Known Better (2009)
    If I Fell (2009)
    And I Love Her (Unique Mix) (same as on mono Something New)
    Can't Buy Me Love (2009)

    STEREO (panned-mono on original 'stereo' LP, some tracks were actually just mono)
    **A Hard Day's Night (2009)
    **Tell Me Why (2009)
    **I'll Cry Instead (Unique Mix) (MONO) (same as on mono Something New and mono AHDN above)
    **I'm Happy Just To Dance With You (2009)
    **I Should Have Known Better (2009)
    **If I Fell (2009)
    **And I Love Her (2009) (original LP had single-tracked vocal version from the mono)
    **Can't Buy Me Love (2009)


    HELP!

    MONO (entire original mono LP was a folddown of the stereo LP)
    *Help! (2009) (James Bond intro edited to beginning)
    *The Night Before (2009)
    *You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (2009)
    *I Need You (2009)
    *Another Girl (2009)
    *Ticket To Ride (2009) (original LP had a folddown of Duophonic mix made from mono mix)
    *You're Gonna Lose That Girl (2009)

    STEREO
    Help! (Remix) (James Bond intro edited to beginning)
    The Night Before (Remix)
    You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Remix)
    I Need You (Remix)
    Another Girl (Remix)
    **Ticket To Ride (Remix)
    You're Gonna Lose That Girl (Remix)


    REVOLVER
    MONO & STEREO All mixes correct (same as 2009)

    HEY JUDE (Stereo Only) All mixes correct (same as 2009)
    (Paperback Writer had reversed channels on original, The Ballad Of John & Yoko had the ending slightly faded)
     
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  7. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    ...and thank you very much! That thread was driving me nuts...:righton: Mine should be arriving next week & I will vote then.
     
  8. btomarra

    btomarra Senior Audiophile Still Learning

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    I will be getting it. Just waiting for a good price at Amazon (I think I missed the last one). I did have the Stereo remasters box but felt the cd jackets on that were designed to cause scuffs to the cds (I am referring to The White album and Past Masters). They didn't have the inner rice sleeves. I did sell that off.

    To me, the sleeves on this look really nice and this may be an alternative for me to own much of the 2009 stereo remasters and some of the US mono mixes and stereo edits. I do also have the Capitol volumes.

    I didn't mind the duophonic tracks replaced with the stereo or mono mixes (if no stereo existed), or replacing the folddowns with mono mixes. I only had an issue with using the 1986 stereo remixes for Help!, Rubber Soul, and Yesterday and Today when the 1965 stereo was issued for Rubber Soul and Help! with the Mono box set.
     
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  9. bferr1

    bferr1 Forum Resident

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    I finally decided to crack my box open and actually play the dang things, and I think I'll be just fine with the purchase after all. I realized that I only know the Beatles in the digital age, so the US albums are complete unknowns to me. The fact that this box isn't an exact representation of the US albums' sound doesn't bother me at all since I have no memories of the original LPs. But I will say that I have heard the first two CDs in the box, and I was struck by their energy and excitement. What a way to kick off Beatlemania in the States!
     

  10. AMEN!
     
  11. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

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    I think that the very existence of this box not to mention those 12000 posts shows that there is still plenty of mania about!
     
  12. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    No religious posts!!! Your "AMEN" will have to go... ;) Arnie
     
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  13. BuckNaked

    BuckNaked Forum Resident

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    I voted, Don't like it...they should have used the original 60's Capitol master tapes.

    I did buy AHDN Soundtrack, and Hey Jude. I will enjoy those along with my two Capitol boxes and my '45th Anniversary' Y&T. FWIW, I am happy for those who bought some or all of the 2014 releases, and are enjoying them.

    With that, I shall say no more! I've had enough of these threads, and they do seem to be going in circles. I hereby bid all fellow Beatlephiles a fair 'Adieu', and I'll see you in other threads...

    :shtiphat:
     
  14. Terry

    Terry Forum Resident

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    I love this gorgeous set. Fantastic.
     
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  15. vinylbeat

    vinylbeat Forum Resident

    My only real complaint as well. Otherwise it's fine. If I want to listen to the "Dexterized" versions, I can always play the original vinyl or "The Capitol Years Vol. 1+2" CD sets. I own the duophonic versions of AHDN and Y&T on boot CD, so I guess that'll have to do.
     
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  16. AlecA

    AlecA Forum Resident

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    I voted like w/reservations. That said, I, like JJ3810, am happy to have good-sounding and good-looking versions of what I grew up with.

    I like it so much, in fact, that I will be selling my mono, stereo, and Capitol boxes!
     
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  17. Hawkman

    Hawkman Supercar Gort Staff Thread Starter

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    THIS should be the reference for this box set. It's the sixth post down on the first page so anyone hopping on at the beginning will see it without wading through page after page of unnecessary garbage.

    Thank you, slane for re-posting this AGAIN!

    And again...impressions of THIS box set ONLY!!!
     
  18. Sidewinder43

    Sidewinder43 Forum Resident

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    I voted that it's okay. If it had all of the U.S. unique mixes/edits, I would like it with some reservations. My overall impression is that there's some unfinished business here.
     
  19. delmonaco

    delmonaco Forum Resident

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    I voted "Like it...with some reservations". Instead of "The Beatles' story", which I feel is completely useless, I would prefer to have some "US Past Masters" CD (containing all the songs not included in the albums up to '66, plus some other later unique mixes) or "Holywood Bowl". But otherwise I love this set, it's a real joy.
     
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  20. dajokr

    dajokr Classical "Mega" Box Set Collector

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    I said it in the other thread and I'll say it again. :) As a physical box set, this is a work of art and a thing of beauty, perhaps surpassing the mono box in its level of detail and quality.
     
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  21. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

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    Absolutely. That was a deal killer for me.
     
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  22. faboomer

    faboomer Well-Known Member

    Actually, I would have clicked the "LOVED IT...with a few reservations." I do love it, it is so great looking, wonderful graphics. Very few minor tweaks (twerks??) here and there have me thinking...and I would have included MMT, mono / stereo. But that's already been talked to death. Carry on.

    I DID enjoy Bill Flanagan's narrative in the booklet. He's a bit of a favorite of mine through his reviews and commentaries on CBS Sundaty Morning already. So I was looking forward to reading his take on this slice of history. I think he did a real good job on it! My favorite excerpt is:

    “And let’s just take a minute to stand in wonder at Paul’s “Long Tall Sally.” Forgive the vulgarity but – holy ****. Had any Englishman ever sung like that before? Had any white man? Sorry, Elvis. Sorry, Killer. Paul wins.”
     
  23. Petrofsk

    Petrofsk Gort to Get You into My Life! Staff

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    I voted "okay."

    I'm not getting the whole box; I picked up 7 of the titles (6 featuring unique mixes, plus Help!).

    Not a fan of the "duophonics", did not grow up with them, don't miss them.
    I do wish they used all the unique mixes (like the stereo versions of the three Yesterday & Today songs.

    All in all, it's okay. What I'll be doing with the unique mixes is inserting them in 1962 - 1966, or replacing the regular versions (when such case applies).

    And that's all I've got to say.
     
  24. BeatleStair

    BeatleStair Forum Resident

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  25. faboomer

    faboomer Well-Known Member

    I've printed one of, cropped it and slipped it in my box. I'm thankful that the black foam shipping pad that was in the box has now given me room for 1) an additional copy of Y&T w/"second state cover" and 2) this great reference document.
    Thanks!
     
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