The big comparison of Iron Maiden CD masterings

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by oldschool, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    In any case, if your CD differs from those in the list (and I don't mean only peak levels), please post it here.
     
  2. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Ok, time for TNOTB

    I'd bet there's only one original mastering of this album on CD. The time differences are negligible.
     

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  3. Javimulder

    Javimulder New Member

    Location:
    Spain
    Just did the EAC log for my EMI 2 CD:


    IRON MAIDEN / The Number Of The Beast

    EMI 7243 8 35870 2 5
    UK: CDEM 1572
    MATRIX: EMI 836072 CDM01 / 1-1-1-NL
    Marketed And Distributed By EMI
    Made In Holland

    Total Time: 0:40:19.60

    Pista 1

    Nombre de Archivo 01. Track01.wav

    Nivel Pico 87.1 %
    Calidad de Pista 99.9 %
    Test CRC 939FB9F4
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [2B3D9620]
    Copia OK

    Pista 2

    Nombre de Archivo 02. Track02.wav

    Nivel Pico 100.0 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 96B209BB
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [F93F5795]
    Copia OK

    Pista 3

    Nombre de Archivo 03. Track03.wav

    Nivel Pico 93.5 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC ACF25958
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [D88D042C]
    Copia OK

    Pista 4

    Nombre de Archivo 04. Track04.wav

    Nivel Pico 84.5 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 58EB23D0
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [1AF19D97]
    Copia OK

    Pista 5

    Nombre de Archivo 05. Track05.wav

    Nivel Pico 99.5 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC E016A16B
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [E3F85965]
    Copia OK

    Pista 6

    Nombre de Archivo 06. Track06.wav

    Nivel Pico 97.3 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC BC67115F
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [05AD7C63]
    Copia OK

    Pista 7

    Nombre de Archivo 07. Track07.wav

    Nivel Pico 92.7 %
    Calidad de Pista 99.9 %
    Test CRC AF8AA63E
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [5B1512FB]
    Copia OK

    Pista 8

    Nombre de Archivo 08. Track08.wav

    Nivel Pico 87.4 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 224ED3DC
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [FE6375CF]
    Copia OK


    Todas las pistas extraidas de modo preciso

    Sin Errores

    Final del Informe
     
  4. If you want to hear a good CD mastering for some of the "The Number of the Beast" tracks, you should track down the respective "The First Ten Years" CD. It has the songs "Run to the Hills" and "Number of the Beast", and these two songs sound much much better on that EP compared to the regular EMI CD. I wish the album was available with that great mastering for all tracks.
     
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  5. Bosco82

    Bosco82 Forum Resident

    Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast
    Capitol
    CDP 7 46364 2
    DIDX 1245
    Manufactured By Capitol Records, Inc
    Made In USA

    TOC of the extracted CD

    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 0:00.33 | 3:23.42 | 33 | 15299
    2 | 3:24.00 | 4:34.65 | 15300 | 35914
    3 | 7:58.65 | 6:02.00 | 35915 | 63064
    4 | 14:00.65 | 6:36.23 | 63065 | 92787
    5 | 20:37.13 | 4:50.05 | 92788 | 114542
    6 | 25:27.18 | 3:53.05 | 114543 | 132022
    7 | 29:20.23 | 3:48.65 | 132023 | 149187
    8 | 33:09.13 | 7:11.05 | 149188 | 181517


    Track 1 - Peak level 87.1 %
    Track 2 - Peak Level 100%
    Track 3 - Peak Level 93.5%
    Track 4 - Peak Level 84.5%
    Track 5 - Peak Level 99.5%
    Track 6 - Peak Level 97.3%
    Track 7 - Peak Level 92.7%
    Track 8 - Peak Level 87.4%

    All tracks accurately ripped

    No errors occurred

    End of status report
     
  6. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Is only this part the matrix, or the whole CDP part?
     
  7. Russ

    Russ Outlaw

    Location:
    Anglesea, NJ
    Nice, thanks for that link.
     
  8. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Notice there are also Castle 1CD versions of the 1995 releases, these are without bonus disc and have the same catalog number. Never had one of those, they seem more rare than the 2CD version.

    Also, I've noticed that on Maidencollector some of the UK TNOTB CD say "Digital Mastering / ADD", while some of the US Capitols say "Digital Mastering / AAD"
     
  9. Brian81

    Brian81 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Ohio

    I remember a few of the Castles at HMV where I believe the bonus disc was removed and they were sold as 1 disc "cut-outs". Nothing desirable, IMO.
     
  10. Bosco82

    Bosco82 Forum Resident

    The DIDX number was i believe just another number Capitol used to differentiate between different discs.
     
  11. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    Sofia, Bulgaria
    It's usually found in matrices. Where do you read yours? On the CD face or..?
     
  12. Bosco82

    Bosco82 Forum Resident

    The Matrix is in the cd ring and on the disc face and the DIDX number is just listed on the disc face.
     
  13. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Ok, would be nice if you also posted the matrix numbers of S/T to TNOTB for your CDs, as I use this info for my tables. Trying to be as informative as possible :)
     
  14. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Here' the updated info for TNOTB. I would like someone to post the levels for an original UK EMI pressing.

    And still no input on any W. German CDs...
     

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  15. Bosco82

    Bosco82 Forum Resident

    On The Capitol Discs the CDP number is the matrix.
     
  16. The Rush Fan

    The Rush Fan Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San Lorenzo, CA
    There are two "versions" of the Castle 1 CD releases. The difference is the back tray insert. One has the artwork from the information insert found in the 2-disc versions on the back of the tray insert (on the inside of the packaging), and the band's name on the far left side, that way when viewed with a clear plastic tray, you could see the band's name. I only need to find a couple more of these to complete my collection, but boy! are they hard to find. I can post a scan later on if anyone's interested.

    The other version just has the regular tray insert (no artwork).

    Sonically, it's the same thing as the 2-disc version.
     
  17. Brian81

    Brian81 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Ohio

    Hmm. Where these later that the type I referred to? I specifically remember seeing some of these 1 CD versions being in cutout bins. It was as if they were returned, the bonus discs removed, and resold as 1CD sets (of course without OBI thingie or square insert) - people probably didn't know as the bonus disc info wasn't listed on the actual front or back inserts, just on the extra piece of paper included.

    I have all the 2 CD ones with white backs, though I am looking for a better condition copy of KILLERS (kinda bugs me that I replaced a mint EMI original that I bought new with a scratched up used copy). I also lack a few of the bonus disc inserts which list the tracklists. I'll admit that I haven't come across ANY of these in a few years now. I think the well has dried up as far as finding these.
     
  18. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Do the 1CD Castles have the same 2CD catalog number, e.g. TNOTB is Castle 104-2/1 for the main CD and 104-2/2 for the bonus?

    PS: OK, checking the maidencollector site, it seems they do.
     
  19. UK EMI has the same levels. I think there is only this one early mastering of TNOTB.
     
  20. Wow, I have never seen one of those. Don't the EMI 2-CD sets also show the band name like you described.

    Is the artwork on the back inlay (inside) the respective single covers from the insert, or in other words, the colored side of these inserts and not the tracklist (which wouldn't make any sense).

    I would love to see a sample picture of those.
     
  21. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Yes, it seems only the singles from The First Ten Years are different. Or at least quieter.
     

  22. Are they quieter? I thought they might be a tad louder, but not compressed.

    Anyhow, the mastering for the two tracks "Run to the Hills" and "Number of the Beast" is outstanding and must be heard.
     
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  23. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    Sofia, Bulgaria
    For what I remember, yes. Overall, the waveforms look more or less the same. Haven't checked the EQ.
     
  24. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Setting the controls for the heart of the sun :)

    Location:
    Europe

    I have never nioticed any difference between the sound quality of the Original EMI NOB and The First Ten Years, I have made Cdr's (And Cassettes Many Years ago) of NOB including the single B Side 'Total Eclispe', positioned in the same order as the remasters track listing and there is not a drop or increase in volume etc, I will have to do a comparision now of Run To and Beast Single version?
     
  25. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    Doesn't the "X" in the catalogue mean Export? U.S. discs with the X were exported to different counties, Japan disc with the X were exported to different counties, etc. and so on... (I haven't read this thread so if I missed something...)
     

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