The Big Moving Coil Cartridge Poll - Under $1000

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Davey, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    SF Bay Area, USA
    This is a companion poll to The Big Moving Coil Cartridge Poll - $1000 to $1300

    Only stipulations are that cartridge is moving coil and new, currently in production, and available to purchase in the US for under $1000. There are a couple cartridges I put on the poll that may be in the discontinuation process, but still widely available. And there are a couple overlaps from the other poll right at the $1000 price point, so I went ahead and added them so this poll can stand on its own ...
     
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  2. Over the years I only owned one $1000.00 cartridge and that was a Shelter 501MKII and sold it within two months. I didn't venture into the above $500.00 MC cartridge range for a while. I've been using the AT-33PTGII for a few years. I rotate cartridges based on mode but after a while the 33 always returns.
     
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  3. mkane

    mkane Strictly Analog

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    Auburn CA
    I have a shelter that out right now but we do have Denon 301mkII we use quite often. The 103's (R's, M, D )are also good.
     
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  4. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

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    Chicago, IL USA
    I voted Audio-Technica AT-OC9XSL because that's all I got.
    I do thoroughly enjoy it, but seeing that the Ortofon Quintet Black S is 999$ I can't help but wonder how that sounds...
     
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  5. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    Yea, the Shelter 501 is pretty popular in the other poll, the current MkIII version is $1300 now, so unfortunately priced out of this poll.
     
  6. BillWojo

    BillWojo Forum Resident

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    Burlington, NJ
    Denon DL-103 and when you wear it out, have it retipped with a nicer stylus. Even if you get a boron cantilever with a microline stylus, added it to the cost of the cartridge when new it's still under the $1000.00
    At that point it can play in the 1000 to 2000 poll and beat most of them in sonics. Amazing deal.

    BillWojo
     
  7. plastico

    plastico Forum Resident

    Location:
    ontario canada
    I had a Dyna10 x5 mk1 and still have a Denon DL -301 mkII. That 301 did a lot of things right! Got rid of the Dynavector, kept the Denon then got the AT ART 9. Now the Denon is collecting dust in a drawer!
    Cheers, Doug
     
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  8. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    I know a lot of you feel this way, but do you have any theory as to why the 103 with boron and MicroRidge would be better than those cartridges in the other poll, most with similar (or even the same) cantilever and stylus? Which ones have you heard? Or even why it would be better than the $500 AT-OC9XML in this poll that comes from factory with boron cantilever and MicroLine stylus (boron cantilever and MicroRidge stylus is only about $100 from Namiki in quantities of 100)? Is it related to the very low compliance of the 103 and the usual installation on a heavier tonearm (I do think most cartridges sound better on higher mass arms, if tonearm dynamics can be controlled well)? Or the suspension? Or the plastic body?
     
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  9. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    Yea, just over a year ago, the ART9 could be purchased direct from AT here in the US with 15% discount code for $841, probably would've been the top dog in this poll. Still a pretty popular option in its new form even with the 50% effective price increase :)


    BTW, previous thread with a lot of good discussion around some of the listed options ... Sub $1K MC Cartridges: Three Winners
     
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  10. elvisizer

    elvisizer Forum Resident

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    San Jose
    i've had 3 of the carts on this survey (denon dl-110, Audio-Technica AT33PTG/II, and the Hana SL) and my pick is the SL.
     
  11. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    Yea, I thought the Hana SL would probably be the big favorite in this poll based on all the attention it has gotten over the last few years, seems to be the favorite recommendation of many.
     
  12. Mad shadows

    Mad shadows Forum Resident

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    I would like to add Ortofon SPU#E to the list. On a suitable heavy arm its hard to beat.
     
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  13. dconsmack

    dconsmack Senior Member

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    Las Vegas, NV USA
    AT33PTG/2. It’s one of the best cartridges ever. Most carts I’ve owned have been around $2k (and up to $8k) The AT is the one I currently use and the only one I’ve ever bought two of. It’s got everything… impeccable build quality, tapered boron cantilever, MicroLine stylus, wide stereo separation, relatively flat frequency response, full and smooth sound, and best-of-the-best tracking performance. I’m finally content.
     
  14. MCM_Fan

    MCM_Fan Senior Member

    Location:
    Oregon
    I voted for the Denon DL-301 MkII because the table I run it on has a low mass tonearm (8g effective mass) that works best with a high compliance cartridge. There aren't many high compliance options in LOMC cartridges. I like the Denon, quiet in the groove, pleasant sounding, etc., but with a heavier tonearm, my answer might be different.
     
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  15. BillWojo

    BillWojo Forum Resident

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    Burlington, NJ
    Davey, I can't make a direct comparison to those other cartridges but I have read numerous times that a well modded DL-103 will compete with or beat a lot of $2000 cartridges. I think the reason is that the generator was very well designed from day one, back in the 60's. My guess is that Denon just got it right. Somehow they made that cartridge make music sound natural, not sterile or analytical. When modified you don't loose the musical characteristic of it, it just produces more detail.
    That said, there are a few carts that I would like to try someday, a SPU and a AT33PTG/2.

    BillWojo
     
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  16. woodpigeon

    woodpigeon Forum Resident

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    New Zealand
    I’m in the inverse position — enjoying the Quintet Black, but also watching so many people rave about the OC9 series at a much lower price point.
     
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  17. Westerwick

    Westerwick Forum Resident

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    Scotland
    I voted for the Dynavector 10x5 only because it was the only sub MC cart I owned. I moved on to a Dynavector 17D later and then a Van den Hul before settling on a Transfiguration.
     
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  18. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

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    Chicago, IL USA
    So what are the strong points of the Black?
    Is it the 'S' version?
     
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  19. StratDoc

    StratDoc Sapien

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    Chattanooga, TN
    The Goldring Eroica LX is a nice cart for well under $1000.
     
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  20. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    Thanks, I missed Goldring in both polls, don't hear much about them on the MC side and some of the big stores have discontinued them, are you a past user? I see Goldring and I only think MM or MI, but knew they also have a MC line, looks like the Eroica and Elite both come in under $1000 now, and the Ethos around $1500.
     
  21. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

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    Chicago, IL USA
    Better scratch this thread and start all over then...
     
  22. Davey

    Davey NP: Bianca Scout ~ Pattern Damage (2024) Thread Starter

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    Yea, the results probably won't be accepted by the poll oversight committee now. Oh well, apologies to the Goldring faithful.

    And while I'm making apologies, can't believe I left Benz Micro off the list, the Glider would probably be my top pick if it was there. Not easy to buy under $1000 in the US right now, but can be had for $700-$800 from kron. And the ACE may still be in play too, not sure if he gets them anymore, but was offered in the $550 range. And the Gold should've definitely been on the list. In my own feeble defense, I referenced some of the big stores like Upscale and MD to round out the selection list, and none of them carry Benz Micro carts.
     
  23. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

    Location:
    Chicago, IL USA
    This thread is still quite valid, the poll is just window dressing.
     
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  24. tiger roach

    tiger roach Forum Resident

    Love the Hana SL, but to be fair, it is the only one listed that I have heard. :D
     
  25. VintageVibe

    VintageVibe Forum Resident

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    New Joisey
    Voted Denon 103r 'cause I've had 3. Also currently using the 103D on the newer deck.

    Kind of itching to try the Hana ML.

    Anyone using one?
     
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