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The Blacklist with James Spader

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by The Panda, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    Ever think the stewmaker had other chemicals in that bottle?
    Oh, the stewmaker was drugged I could tell.
    There was some believeable to stewmaker honey I got a
    convention again in couple weeks.
    There are probably guys like him, out there.
  2. Karnak

    Karnak "81-82-83-84..."

    Somehow I knew as soon as I saw Tom Noonan that he'd crank up the creepiness level.

    Reminds me a little of Michelle Ryan(Bionic Woman)-and how I'd rather be watching her instead. Now -she's- hot.
  3. This is definitely the best new show of the Fall season so far. Let us hope it doesn't derail when they inevitably have to reveal the connection between Spader and the agent.
  4. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

    Hollywood, USA
    I really liked Silence of the Lambs quite a bit, but I must confess, I tried to watch the HD version on Blu-ray not too long ago and wound up kind of bailing on it half-way through. Love the first part when Lector ensnares Clarice Starling with tidbits of the crime. Once he starts eating people's faces, I'm out.

    I keep hoping maybe they'll do some incredible 180-degree flip on us and suddenly make the show extremely surprising and interesting. But... I've been wrong before.
  5. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Cambridge, MA
    Yeah, I wonder. Will this wind up being a novel procedural that sticks pretty close to the opening script, like Person of Interest, or is there a big reveal coming? (We still don't really know Spader's motivations yet).
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  6. PNeski@aol.com

    PNeski@aol.com Forum Resident

    New York
    you are kidding??
  7. tonyc

    tonyc Well-Known Member

    I agree that just watching and listening to Spader is a treat. I actually enjoy the part where he kills the most. It is what he really is and that fact should not be forgotten and the character turned into a witty sidekick. I said earlier in the thread that I have yet to sense the writers have a masterplan for everything they are trying to do here and I continue to believe that. But, I'm going to watch anyway as I think it will be somewhat enjoyable even if it all devolves into a trainwreck.
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  8. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Seeker of Truth

    The sole purpose of this show is to watch and enjoy Spader.
  9. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    I'm getting annoyed at the overuse of the word "criminal".
  10. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Cambridge, MA
    I agree. Criminally overused.
    Karnak and misterdecibel like this.
  11. Latest episode was terrific.
  12. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident

    I lasted 15 minutes into episode three, I'm done. The Spader character was interesting for an episode, now he's just annoying the hell out of me also his co-star is overpowered and weak in his presence.
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  13. Really? I thought that four was the best of the episodes so far so maybe you bailed too early.
  14. nbakid2000

    nbakid2000 On Indie's Cutting Edge

    Springfield, MO
    What was the black goop that the Stewmaker poured over his head and washed with in the shower?
  15. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    The Freelancer, The Stewmaker, The Courier, does every black-lister have a similar moniker?
  16. tonyc

    tonyc Well-Known Member

    I enjoyed the last episode. I have lowered my expectations and thus can have fun with it. For example, when they look for the hostage I said to the screen: "I bet Spader finds him before the FBI" and what a surprise I was right. I also laughed at how a two foot hole under the floor containing the money and passports grew into a cemetery plot in the course of one week.

    The next episode looks like it may provide some answers and move it all forward.
  17. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host

    Best we not know.
  18. progrocker71

    progrocker71 Forum Resident

    Los Angeles
    Unless you find him incredibly annoying...which I do. That makes him the primary reason I'm not watching this show.
  19. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

    Hollywood, USA
    I thought this past week's episode, with "The Courier" -- a scarred-up guy who can't feel pain, who embeds information and tools in cuts all over his body -- was terrific. And the mystery deepens on the FBI chick's husband.

    I didn't like the cliffhanger, where the husband shows the wife the phony passports, the money, and the gun... but they'll have to answer this next week. I gotta say, they're holding my interest. And Spader is a hoot.

    I think the character is intended to be annoying, but that's kind of the point: he's an arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic genius/villain who has connections all over the world, and he's so smart, he's always about 3 steps ahead of the FBI. And yet, for reasons we still don't know, he's helping one of their agents find people who are even worse than he is.

    I dunno if they can sustain this for five or six years, but it's not too hateful at the moment.
  20. jpelg

    jpelg Forum Resident

    The Elm City
    The show rests on the ideas that:

    1. Raymond Reddington knows more than anyone else - "Let me put your mind at ease. I'm never telling you everything."
    2. Many things can be a matter of perspective - "I'm talking about a friend; a philosopher who practices an ancient ritual going back thousands of years."
    3. Appearances are deceiving & the core beliefs that many of the main characters (Lizzie mostly) will be challenged greatly - see "Tom & Liz", "Red & Liz", etc.

    As long as you buy into those tenets, and don't dissect every fact for plausibility, so far there are more than a few very good moments.
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  21. nbakid2000

    nbakid2000 On Indie's Cutting Edge

    Springfield, MO
    The last episode was a jump up in quality. I think the whole "hide things in your body" has been done before in other TV shows/movies.

    Was anyone else confused by the last episode in front of the plane where he's openly talking to the FBI over the phone in front of his contact? Wouldn't that have been a secret conversation?
  22. chacha

    chacha Forum Resident

    mill valley CA USA
    You could also watch it for the awful performance of the lead actress
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  23. tonyc

    tonyc Well-Known Member

    I liked last night's episode although certain things were still funny:

    Why not just get out of the elevator with all the kids and take the stairs instead of staying in and attack the FBI agent?
    Four hours until the bomb goes off yet they get from a D.C. office to the Port of Houston with two hours to spare?
    How does a bomb that will spray a five mile radius barely cause a ripple when detonated in one foot of water?

    I am intrigued by the direction they went at the end of the episode.
  24. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Seeker of Truth

    So, if The Mentalist gets cancelled maybe we can bring Van Pelt onboard.
  25. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Cambridge, MA
    Yeah, you need to take the time/space discontinuities in stride, sort of like an episode of 24 (get from one end of LA to the other during rush hour in 15 minutes). Besides the Port of Houston/DC thing, there was also the visit to Germany that seemed to take about 20 minutes to complete.

    The fact that there was a huge crowd around the docks as they considered what to do with the bomb was silly, too. Of course, in real life only a skeletal crew would have been around the bomb and everyone else would have moving to try and get beyond the blast area.

    And the chance that they'd grant that Russian woman spy immunity after she's tried to detonate a dirty bomb was laughable.

    I am more intrigued by the husband (did or or didn't he), and the two clowns who are watching reality porn emanating from the agent's house.
    tonyc likes this.

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