The definitive James Bond film ?

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  1. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    Looks like Craig’s Bond career started with a kiss kiss bang bang and ended shaken and not stirred.
     
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  2. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    You nailed it.
    Dr. No.

    followed by From Russia With Love and On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
     
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  3. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    Wasn’t The Avengers/Peel episode A Touch Of Brimstone not shown in America because of the s&m?
     
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  4. CraigBic

    CraigBic Forum Resident

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    I keep going back to Goldeneye the subsequent Pierce films took the more comedic stuff and amped it up but I think this kept the fun in Bond without making it silly. I think the villain seems more plausible than many Bond villains as well Sean Bean is fantastic. The Goldeneye weapon probably isn't the most realistic in how it works in the movie but I like the way it's used and how they set it up in order to have it as a threat at the end of the movie. I think it's the first Bond film I saw in the cinema as well, I was 10 when it came out so I was skeptical about going to see it (My friend's dad took us) but I ended up loving the film.
     
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  5. Richard--W

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    I think the emphasis on comedy | satire | slapstick ruined the 1970s Bond films.
    There was always good action and beautiful women to enjoy but they did not
    entirely make up for the idiotic mentality. I always thought the Bond films should
    be suspense thrillers with some eroticism and a minor element of ironic wit that
    Connery and Young were so adept at. The tongue-in-cheek tone was a difficult
    note to strike for subsequent teams and they fell over themselves doing it wrong.
    The scale tipped into idiocy with TSWLM; a spectacular production spoiled by
    a giant clown. Kids who grew up with that actually assumed it belonged there,
    and there was no saving the franchise from the twisted expectations it started.

    Then Barbara Broccoli took over, Daniel Clueless happened, and it all went to h--l.
     
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  6. Bingo Bongo

    Bingo Bongo Music gives me Eargasms

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    Sean Connery is my fav Bond, but I love Live And Let Die as well as Goldfinger
     
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  7. Spaghettiows

    Spaghettiows Forum Resident

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    I always thought that very thing, but it would have been comical to see Connery as "Sir Hilary Bray".
     
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  8. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    Sean Connery/Bond ~ OHMSS ? Too old.
     
  9. Richard--W

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    So have I thought so. The film would have been anchored and strengthened by
    Connery's gravitas and demeanor. Lazenby got lucky; he got the best Bond
    script and a director who guided him into the best possible performance and
    who really made sure to use only the best takes so that he looked good (come to
    think of it Peter Hunt took good care of the series, and his loss was evident in
    subsequent films). I came to accept Lazenby. He turned out to be a good choice
    in retrospect. I would have accepted Roger Moore who would have played Bond
    in OHMSS if he had been allowed out of his TV contract. Moore gave his best
    performances under director Peter Hunt in other films. Getting back to Sean
    Connery, he'd have pulled off "Sir Hilary Bray" with considerable aplomb. I'm
    trying to remember the title of that film in which he does a puppy dog impression ....
     
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  10. rockerreds

    rockerreds Senior Member

    I'll always love Thunderball because of the sauna scene.
     
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  11. Jim B.

    Jim B. Senior Member

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    Goldfinger is the best Bond film I think but the (new) Casino Royale is the definitive Bond film as it's less about the gadgets and taking over the world and more about the down to earth aspects of spying which is more realistic.
     
  12. supermd

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    I think this might be my favorite as well. It has a freshness to it no other Bond film has and is by no means overplayed.

    Interestingly, in 2005, EA made a From Russia With Love video game with Sean Connery returning to voice the character. I wonder why this game was ever approved, in an era where most gamers were likely unaware of this movie and likely never watched it. I really enjoyed the game. It had a great feel to it. I'm just a fan of the film/game, I guess.
     
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  13. TheDailyBuzzherd

    TheDailyBuzzherd Forum Resident

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    "Strict rules of golf, GOLDFINGA!"

    ... but I'd say the most intelligent and realistic is "From Russia with Love".
    Plenty of real-world intrigue and laughs. Seriously, Lotte Lenya must've
    had a great laugh wearing those spiked shoes.
     
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  14. TheDailyBuzzherd

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    "Casino Royale" easily is Craig's best and the best from EON
    in many years. Not to slog off Pierce Brosnan, his best was
    "Goldeneye" and that's a fun watch as well. "Tomorrow Never
    Dies" was a turkey and it went downhill from there.
     
  15. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    Did the Skyfall down?
     
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  16. Rachael Bee

    Rachael Bee Miembra muy loca

    So be it but the theme music is first rate. :p There's a few other Bond film where that's true....too.
     
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  17. Slack Babbath

    Slack Babbath Hit The North...

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    My favourite Bond
    [​IMG]
     
  18. DBMethos

    DBMethos Forum Resident

    The consensus seems to be that Goldfinger is the 'definitive' cinematic Bond film, with FRWL and OHMSS as the 'best'...can't say I disagree with any of that. I will say that I have a soft spot for The Living Daylights (tied with OHMSS for my favorite Bond film & soundtrack).

    In the 'What could have been' department: GoldenEye as the originally planned third Dalton film could have been INCREDIBLE. Too bad that never materialized.
     
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  19. Vidiot

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    Sean Connery would have been 39 in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Connery was born in 1930; the movie was made in 1969), and I don't think that's too old at all. George Lazenby was 9 years younger, so he was 30 at the time the film was made.
     
  20. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    Goldfinger for me! saw it at the movies back when it first ran...
     
  21. cyclistsb

    cyclistsb Forum Resident

    Goldfinger, if only for this quote:

    Pu$$y Galore:
    My name is Pu$$y Galore.

    James Bond:
    I must be dreaming.
     
  22. Kyle B

    Kyle B Forum Resident

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    Goldfinger, definitely for me.

    I really liked Brosnan in the role but with the exception of Goldeneye, he never got great scripts. For Craig, I liked Casino Royale and Skyfall, but he is too dour and humorless in the role.
     
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  23. MPLRecords

    MPLRecords Owner of eleven copies of Tug of War

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    There's only one answer: Goldfinger. There are two (or three) Bond films I like more, but nothing sums up what Bond is as well as that.
     
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  24. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    I have never forgotten it, firstly for Bond's classic comeback retort & secondly for my late father's incredulous chuckle at the "Galore" line whilst once watching it at home on TV 30+ years ago!
     
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  25. AirJordanFan93

    AirJordanFan93 Forum Resident

    They lured him back at 41 for Diamonds. But he was looking pretty old in YOLT though I think by then the hairpieces were making him look older as well.
     
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