"The Deuce" - HBO Series with James Franco and Maggie Gyllenhaal

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  1. Tone

    Tone Forum Resident Thread Starter


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  2. Deesky

    Deesky Forum Resident

    What the deuce...?
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  3. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    Saw the trailer for this before "Thrones"...
    I though that was Meg Ryan for a second there!
  4. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

    when does it start?
  5. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Looks so so.
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  6. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden MichiGort Staff

    Livonia, MI
    September 10, 2017
  7. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

    Toronto, Canada
    I did wonder if this would fall into the "TV shows made to look more appealing with period costumes and soundtracks to cover up substandard story telling" category. :)

    I hope it's better than Vinyl.
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  8. Chazro

    Chazro Forum Resident

    West Palm Bch, Fl.
    The biggest draw this project's got going for it is David Simon. But than again, Vinyl had a sterling pedigree team behind it and was awful. Regardless, I'm all in!
  9. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    A tv show in search of a hit record. :laugh:
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  10. inaptitude

    inaptitude Forum Resident

    I'll watch anything that David Simon is involved with. The Wire was incredible. I thought Treme was an amazing combination of music and an ensemble, multi-plot series. Super psyched for this.
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  11. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

    vinyl was wretched.
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  12. sberger

    sberger Grumpy(but grateful) geezer

    Pilot is up on Direct TV on demand. Not horrible, if somewhat predictable.
  13. Chris DeVoe

    Chris DeVoe Forum Resident

    Watched the pilot last night. Grim, gritty...and depressing. There is a story to be told about the porn industry in NYC in the Seventies, but I don't particularly want to see it told by this writer. This is Boogie Nights with anything enjoyable drained out of it.
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  14. Chazro

    Chazro Forum Resident

    West Palm Bch, Fl.
    Just watched it and thought it was great! I don't know how he does it, but David Simon somehow always succeeds in making the cities a living breathing character in his tales. What Baltimore and New Orleans were to his Wire & Treme, midtown 70's NYC is to the Deuce. Absolutely reeks with authenticity. It's going to be compared to HBO's prior attempt at this era; Vinyl, and thats a shame as this show is everything that show wasn't. I am absolutely all in! Saw far I've spotted familiar faces from the Wire, Rescue Me, & the Sopranos.
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  15. tommy-thewho

    tommy-thewho Forum Resident

    detroit, mi
    I saw preview last night.

    I'll give it a shot...
  16. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

    Toronto, Canada
    I might tune in just for that!
  17. David Egan

    David Egan Forum Resident

    Oakland CA
    The folks who brought porn to the public broke the law, broke the rules, had a blast and changed the culture. There were bills to pay, you bet. When one goes out on a limb keep your ears open for that cracking sound. But American movies and TV have almost always stressed a humorless, condescending approach to this world and I doubt David Simon is the one to change that.
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  18. Chris DeVoe

    Chris DeVoe Forum Resident

    Every interview I see with NY-era porn actresses like Georgina Spelvin, Vanessa del Rio, Veronica Hart - they are all talking about how much fun they were having. We had a family friend who was a porn actress in that era, and she was proud of her work - she was in several of the most highly rated porn films of the day. So I was interested in this, and it's nothing but grim, grim, grim.
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  19. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    So, I checked this out... since the first episode was directed by Michelle MacLaren....
    I want to tell ya', I DID get a bit of a 'smell-memory' from a couple of scenes!
    The 'rent-by-the-hour' building, and the scene with Franco alone on the train platform brought back SMELLS I remembered from the 'hand-full' of times I went to 'the city' during my teens (early-to-mid-'80's)!
    Almost creepy!
    I was, once, on the Jamaica station platform all by myself, in the middle of the night.... I remember how eerie and quiet the town around me was.... and, the SMELL!
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  20. Daryl M

    Daryl M Forum Resident

    London, Ontario
    Maggie and Franco together?! I am so in.
  21. ando here

    ando here Forum Resident

    North Pole
    The pilot looks fantastic. Naturally, it's derivative of every 70s trope you can think of (creators just couldn't resist the pavement level shot of Franco in leather platforms a la Travolta in Saturday Night Fever).

    However, the intensity of New York City street life is missing. In NYC, particularly Manhattan, the hustle is all. It's an important point that might have informed mistakes like Franco counting the days' receipts out front on the bar. Who does that anywhere? Of all the players it's the pimps who capture the feel of the era. The California boy is out of his element. ;) Also, chicks looking for the million dollar f@ck shot from James are likely to be disappointed. Dominique Fishback's scene with the late show john is sexier. Perhaps that's the intended effect.

    Most important, though, is the obvious lack of conflict. What does Franco want? Either Franco? Without characters who really want something there isn't much momentum or drama.

    That said, Maggie Gyllenhaal's (Candy) scene with the teenage first-timer makes a viewing worth it.
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2017
  22. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

    They scratched Vinyl.
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  23. pocofan

    pocofan Forum Resident

    Beat me to it.
  24. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

    Thought it was great. Boogie Nights mixed with The Wire.
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  25. Balthazar

    Balthazar Forum Resident

    Just based on the promo, I'm completely disinterested.

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