The Fall - Album by Album by Single by Cassette thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jim B., Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Formerly thoutah

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    I picked up a copy of the 2xCD Bend Sinister because I wanted the additional tracks that didn't come with the 2xLP, but also because I was never able to find a perfect pressing of the LP.

    But god damn, this CD is loud! While I like the midrange boost in the new mastering, this CD was mastered too loudly and with a little too much compression for my tastes. When looking at the files in Audacity, you can see lots of clipped peaks, and a few tracks are close to brickwalled. The LP sounds much better because you get that nice increase in midrange but without the volume boost and compression.

    Oh well. Those Peel tracks are great, though.
     
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  2. Mumdad

    Mumdad Forum Resident

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    Did anyone pick up the triple LP Hex Enduction Hour? I have the Superior Viaduct from a couple of years back which isn't bad but could probably be convinced to buy the album yet again if this is actually a tangible upgrade on the old CD.
     
  3. hamicle

    hamicle Forum Resident

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    Nope. Have been thinking about it but it’s not cheap and I find the CD fine for all I listen to it. Of course, my interest level is likely to increase if others have had good experiences of the new pressing!
     
  4. octophone

    octophone fit and working again

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    I have it. There's a wee bit of scratchy audio grot due to the coloured vinyl but the pressing is loud enough for it not to intrude except during the beginning of Iceland and the quietest bits of "Hip Priest". But my previous vinyl copy was a white vinyl LINE LP so it feels like a massive upgrade from that. The 7" sounds great and the mastering engineer has made a great job of the live tracks. YMMV etc etc. (nb - I paid £30.99 incl postage because I had a voucher to use in a well-known-retailer. I wouldn't have paid £41 in the shops).
     
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  5. Willowman

    Willowman Forum Resident

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    I'm not buying any of these to avoid duplication, but presumably next will be a Rough Trade box?
     
  6. octophone

    octophone fit and working again

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    I think what happens next will depend on how well these sell/have sold. These certainly haven't done the initial business of the LATWT/Dragnet releases earlier in the year which actually reached the top 40 of the album sales-only chart in the UK (they didn't make the combined sales and streaming chart). These didn't make the 100. This may be because of the higher prices involved and they may, therefore, have aimed these at the "possible Xmas gift" market. My 2 most local stores have the exact same number of the 1982 box set on the shelf as they had to start with and one of them didn't stock "Room To Live", figuring that, given the album's poor reputation, it was too expensive and wouldn't sell. One swallow doesn't make a summer so we'll see if this is the repeated experience but I think they've over-estimated how much people will pay for stuff that's been reissued time and time again. If they'd cut the extraneous live LPs from Hex and RTL and snipped the price of the CD box, they'd likely have done much better business. But, like I say, maybe they had a longer game in mind.
     
  7. jimod99

    jimod99 Daddy or chips?

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    I have the Earmark 2lp of Hex, so still swithering wether to fork out €50 for the new version.

    Hopefully they’ll do Slates next as my original copy is a bit beat up.
     
  8. Tristero

    Tristero Touching from a distance

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    So has anyone purchased the new 1982 set on CD? I'd welcome reviews both on the sound quality and the rare bonus material.
     
  9. octophone

    octophone fit and working again

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    I'd like a 10" vinyl of Slates. Last time I saw one, it was kinda beat up and yr man still wanted £25 for it. Same dude who sold me a superb Rough Trade Grotesque that was at least Ex+ for £18!
     
  10. johnnybrum

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  11. octophone

    octophone fit and working again

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    Narnack have been promising a new FHR for a while now. There were a few problems contractually with the Narnack albums due to MES signing deals in different territories that didn't work too well together. I'd have to assume this has been sorted out: maybe the deal was that Narnack got FHR and Cherry Red got Reformation Post TLC? Or maybe the contacts were different.

    I do remember Fall forum founder and frequent reissue consultant Conway Paton commenting that rights issues were in the way in terms of getting a definitive, all-encompassing edition of "The Real New Fall LP (formerly Country On The Click)" out into the world; a common request is the original, scrapped version of the album to be released and competing US and UK contracts have been an issue.
     
  12. Willowman

    Willowman Forum Resident

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  13. jimod99

    jimod99 Daddy or chips?

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    Not entirely sure I need this as I have the album, both the UK and the US with different sleeve, and all the singles, plus the lp and the Live At Hammersmith cd.

    They do seen to be doing the albums somewhat haphazardly, but then again it is The Fall so we shouldn’t expect anything else.....
     
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  14. RomanZ

    RomanZ Forum Resident

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    I'm curious about CD3 - are these possibly the tracks recorded with Pritchard, Trafford and Birtwistle before the infamous US tour?
     
  15. octophone

    octophone fit and working again

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    There has been some speculation to this end - this appears to be based on the unknown tracktitles and the inclusion of "The Boss", previously only heard as a live recording by that line-up.
    I find it very unlikely that there would 2 full discs of outtakes and alternates from an album session alleged to have lasted just 4 days so it would make sense.
    We'll find out in due course
     
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  16. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Not an album that really needs a 4CD set but at least it's not a dodgy live album :)
     
  17. Disco Robot

    Disco Robot Forum Resident

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    I follow Ben Pritchard on Twitter, but haven't seen him comment about it. Feel awkward messaging him on it since, based on the random way song credits are handled in Fall-land, it would not be out of the realm of possibility that stuff he wrote/played on would get released without him getting compensated
     
  18. It's Felix

    It's Felix It's not really me

  19. It's Felix

    It's Felix It's not really me

    I contacted Cherry Red. As I was hoping for a Grotesque vinyl release - but they said “that isn’t one of theirs, but Rough Trade’s” so I am not sure which future ones they own now....
     
  20. RTW

    RTW Forum Resident

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    They don’t own Grotesque or PBL, the Beggars stuff, or the Fontana stuff. I would like to see a focus on vinyl reissues of the indie albums that weren’t originally released during vinyl’s heyday, e.g. The Infotainment Scan, Cerebral Caustic, The Unutterable. My LP collection skips from Extricate to Levitate. I don’t know that I’ve ever even seen Light User on LP.
     
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  21. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    It's not a great Fall album. It's ok, worth owning the normal version, it is too long though - some of the songs seem to go on and on. It really doesn't warrant an expanded edition, only for the real real completists I think. The band were a already existing US indie band, so it feels more of a MES solo project with him singing over the music of this band to an extent.
     
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  22. Willowman

    Willowman Forum Resident

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    Weird about Grotesque and PBL, as Sanctuary did both of those alongside Witch Trials etc.
     
  23. jimod99

    jimod99 Daddy or chips?

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    I have the Light User on lp, it’s on Jet, yes the same label ELO were on!
     
  24. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Yes, you would think RT long lost the rights to those records, when they went bust originally, and they wouldn't have gone out and re-bought the rights when they formed the current company?
     
  25. jimod99

    jimod99 Daddy or chips?

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    Grotesque has been released on vinyl, and cd, by numerous labels since the RT day’s too, unless they all licensed it from them.
     

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