The Grateful Dead - Aoxomoxoa 50th Anniversary Details

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  1. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

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    Rough but exciting Caboose to start. Similar vibe to 2/11/69.
     
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  2. DjNotNot

    DjNotNot Forum Resident

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    The new Remaster of the Original Mix sounds just as bad as the Rhino LP to me. Prof Stoned Needledrop still takes the cake here.
     
  3. puffyrock2

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    Really taken aback at how drastic the '71 remix was. The album basically sounds completely re-recorded. Having fun listening to this as all I've known since I was a kid was the remix version.
     
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  4. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Hey @Zapruder how's the film coming along?
     
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  5. Laservampire

    Laservampire Down with this sort of thing

    Sounds like they mustn’t have done much actual mastering beyond the new Plangent transfer.

    The master tape itself is very dull sounding so it seems that the improved sound of the original LP is just a result of the EQ used when cutting the original lacquers.

    Should be pretty easy to recreate with Audacity or similar.
     
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  6. Enjoyed hearing the original mix for the first time. Wow! Glad to have it all together where it belongs in the nice anniversary set. Looking forward to the next in the series. :righton:
     
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  7. fishcane

    fishcane Dirt Farmer

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    My copy came with a beautiful large GD Comix China Cat lithograph! gorgeous
     
  8. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    Was the hdtracks release several years ago the original or remix? Can’t remember...
     
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  9. Zack

    Zack Senior Member

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    That is wack!
     
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  10. dgwint

    dgwint Forum Resident

    '71 remix.
     
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  11. dtuck90

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    Am I right in thinking the Rhino vinyl reissue from a few years ago was the original mix?
     
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  12. johnnyb1964

    johnnyb1964 Treats please!

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    How does the live disc sound?
     
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  13. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

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    Great - multi-tracks like Live/Dead
     
  14. Zapruder

    Zapruder Just zis guy, you know?

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    Still trying to find the reel I lost. That had some really great shots on it.
     
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  15. dtuck90

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    I need to download the 24/192 but I’ve got so much to listen to i.e. the Dylan 1975 box
     
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  16. DjNotNot

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    I would have to question if this is really the master tape, or if the tape itself was poorly cared for. There is some nasty breakup and distortion in Mountains of The Moon and some other tracks.
    The Original LP sounds clear and detailed in every bad spot on the remaster.
     
  17. Spencer R

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    The liner notes of this 50th Anniversary Aoxomoxoa expand on Jerry’s quote above that “I didn’t really bother to teach the material anyone else in the band ... we didn’t go about it as a group at all.” I’ve always noticed that Garcia (and Robert Hunter) dominate the songwriting on Aoxomoxoa, but, until I read the liner notes for this reissue, I didn’t realize that Bob Weir and Pigpen were nearly fired from the band during this period. This is basically a Jerry Garcia solo album in all but name, which makes it their best early album, I find, because I prefer his writing and singing to Weir’s and Pigpen’s.
     
  18. bmoregnr

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    I'm poking around the '69 mix CD against the Professor's on the office system and the CD pretty easily wins in my book so far, just far more of that closer to the master tape feel to me and all the psych effects are better technically conveyed. I'm going to play the whole thing on the big rig but I'm not getting any tape problems nor dullness in my mind. Looking at all the tracks in Audacity I don't see anything close to limiting. It will be interesting to see if the hi res is any different as I don't remember them being different for an album given it's Glasser that does these, but maybe somebody knows differently. Anyway I love this mix; I would have loved this album far more from the beginning if I cut my teeth on this mix earlier in my tenure with it.
     
  19. Rich C

    Rich C Forum Resident

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    I think original mix sounds great. Definitely subtleties are evident that were missing on 2011(?) vinyl issue. Even Whatever Happened To The Baby was good. Surprised to receive today.
     
  20. dgwint

    dgwint Forum Resident

    What's the professor's? I have a needle drop version of the original mix from the professor is that the same thing?
     
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  21. sparkmeister

    sparkmeister Forum Resident

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    I have never heard the Prof Stoned needledrop (never heard of it and don't even know where to find it) but I have never heard any version of Aoxomoxoa that I would consider a sonic master piece. I have a UK 1969 original, a UK mid 70s re-issue, the first cd issue, the rhino re-release and now the 50th Anniversary. I'm struggling to understand why someone's needledrop would be better than anything else?
     
  22. heepsterandrey

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    Pretty sure the original mix only sounds off mostly because of the mix, and tape degradation on this 50 year old mix got to it a bit. Wasn’t it lost for many years? It may have been improperly stored. I think this release sounds as good as it can.
     
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  23. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke There you go man, keep as cool as you can

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    Im lovin' the damn thing, myself. Never heard the original mix, lotta different stuff in there, man!:agree:
     
  24. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke There you go man, keep as cool as you can

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    Sorry heepsterandrey, didnt mean to include your quote...
     
  25. zongo

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    No, there are studio outtakes from the album that were recorded on 8 track which they dumped entirely and then re-recorded on 16 track. The 8 track recordings are very different and quite interesting: a version of St Stephen with telephone and bagpipes, a "song" called "Barbed Wire Whipping Party", a version of Cosmic Charlie that sounds like the Beach Boys are playing it...it's essentially a complete and fully different version of the album. It has circulated for decades in pretty decent sound quality, but at this point should really be released officially...just like the outtakes from Workingman's Dead with the early version of Ripple and other things should be released...
     
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