The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. libertycaps

    libertycaps Forum Resident

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    And precisely why we need a Dave's of 6-10-73!
     
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  2. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Matthew 21:17

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    Here's a question for all and sundry -

    if you only had $17 to spend on a Grateful Dead gift for an experienced listener who enjoys both eras, would you go with the Anthem of the Sun 50th anniversary, or the 3 CD sampler from the PNW set?
     
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  3. Freebird

    Freebird Was 205 pounds, now 215.

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    PNW Sampler. This was an easy decision.
     
  4. adamos

    adamos Forum Resident

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    To me they are both must-have (if he doesn't have the PNW box) but the PNW sampler really came out great, so I'd vote for that.
     
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  5. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    Listened to 1/10/79 Nassau, the middle Dark Star of the three from 12/31/78 through 1/20/79. Mediocre first set until the closing sequence of Row Jimmy, Passenger, Loser (where Sweet Suzie makes her last appearance, supposedly), and Music Never Stopped, which were all very good. Second set is all fire from the Shakedown on, great version of St. Stephen late in the set as well. Last show that featured both Dark Start and St. Stephen - wowza.
     
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  6. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    IWT. Great second show, save that I had no idea at the time how monumental it was. It did take some time for the band to dial it in during the first set, mediocre is an adjective I'd reserve for some 1984 shows I saw.

    And if Betty had recorded it on reel-to-reel tape, nobody would care about Cornell. :biglaugh:
     
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  7. Weir has done "Most Of The Time", from Oh Mercy, with bands outside of the Dead.
     
  8. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    Maybe "not notable" rather than "mediocre" - nothing was badly played, but it was very standard and not a very exciting song selection until Row Jimmy or so. After that, the rest of the show was terrific, and very jealous about your being in attendance.
     
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  9. Monroro

    Monroro Forum Resident

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    I thought it was "elegant pie" as well!
     
  10. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Rezident

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    I never knew they played Baby Blue so early, I have to go dig around for some of those '66 versions; I mean I guess I've heard it that early once or twice, but I sure don't remember it. Odd then that it didn't show up again until '69 - 7 times, '70 - 3, '72 - 2, '74 -1 then nothing until '81 when it hit pretty regular rotation except for a dip to once in '93 (maybe a little too personal feeling that year?). You think you know something,
     
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  11. jomo48

    jomo48 Forum Resident

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    It's on Vintage Dead, thought to have been recorded on 16 September 1966.
     
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  12. jazz_case

    jazz_case Forum Resident

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    It's All Over Now Baby Blue (my favorite encore)

    12.27.91 OAK (10th/final version of the year)
    03.12.92 NY (only '92 version)
    03.10.93 IL (only '93 version)
    09.17.94 MV (first of 6 in '94)
    02.19.95 UT (only version in '95; FINAL)

    Yeah, it's weird.

    I'm going to go ahead and blame "Baba O'Riley > Tomorrow Never Knows" for the missing versions in '92 and similarly "I Fought the Law" for the missing versions of '93. :p
     
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  13. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    So they did it before the 13th Floor Elevators did....
     
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  14. KeninDC

    KeninDC Hazy Cosmic Jive

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  15. dsdu

    dsdu less serious minor pest

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  16. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    Yeah Baby...

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Wright

    Wright Forum Resident

    Ok, let's break down the distribution of lead vocals for the Dylan covers:

    Jerry

    It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry (GD + solo)
    Knockin' on Heaven's Door (GD + solo)
    Quinn the Eskimo (GD)
    She Belongs to Me (GD)
    Visions of Johanna (GD)
    It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (GD)
    The Wicked Messenger (solo)
    Going, Going, Gone (sol0)
    Forever Young (solo)
    Tough Mama (solo)
    Tangled up in Blue (solo)
    Simple Twist of Fate (solo)
    I Shall Be Released (solo)
    The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest (solo)
    Positively 4th Street (solo)
    Señor (solo)
    Tears of Rage (solo)
    When I Paint My Masterpiece (solo)

    That's actually ten '60s songs out of eighteen.

    Bobby (GD only)

    All Along the Watchtower
    Ballad of a Thin Man
    Desolation Row
    Maggie's Farm
    Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again
    Queen Jane Approximately
    When I Paint My Masterpiece

    All but one from the '60s here.

    So, my theory didn't really hold... Jerry liked Dylan's '60s and '70s material equally, though Planet Waves and Blood on the Tracks obviously saw a spike in his interest, bringing five songs from those albums into his repertoire. And even if he went on to play a variety of Dylan songs in solo configurations, Bobby obviously preferred his '60s material with the Dead.

     
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  18. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    Listened this morning to most of 3/19/77 set 1. Some sound quality problems that may be the reason it hasn't been officially released yet, but a well played set. There is something about these early versions of "Terrapin" with no backing vocals (except on the closing "terrapin").
     
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  19. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    Terrapin frigg'n ROX! :agree:
     
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  20. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Oh, you like Terrapin Station? Try the version from 6 May 1978- UVM (GEMS transfer). :tiphat:
     
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  21. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    Will do (if I can find it! :))
     
  22. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

  23. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    May I ask, please, which Live official release versions of songs from Terrapin Station would you guys recommend? Primarily Terrapin Station & Estimated Prophet. Please let me know what are the best sounding versions too, if you would, thanks!
     
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  24. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

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    Terrapin from 1/23/78 via Dave’s 23

    Estimated - most any late 77 or 78 version.
     
  25. latheofheaven

    latheofheaven My Pants are FULLY Analog...

    Excellent, thanks! :tiphat:
     

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