The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. timriepe

    timriepe Forum Resident

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    Yeah i meant 3/29! I saw the Dead and Co show with Branford and that was one of my absolute favorite Dead and Co shows!
     
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  2. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

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    Courtesy of me, FWIW, although I wish they had corrected the speed; it’s about 2% slow
     
  3. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    I guess Buck Owens would be a sensible other move but I like Merle far better than any of the others.
     
  4. Freebird

    Freebird Was 205 pounds, now 215.

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    One of my favorites incarnations of this band is when they’re having fun. It’s contagious. Good vibes all around.

    11-1-85 is one of those shows.
     
  5. rcb30

    rcb30 Fender Rhodesian

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    If you're like me, you may have looked at those '79 stats and wondered about the four Lost Sailors that were out wandering around on their own recognizance. Fortunately, wasn't hard to answer since it was the first four Sailor performances. They went:

    > Deal
    > Althea
    standalone
    >Deal

    Then it paired with Saint in that song's debut, and that was that.
     
  6. libertycaps

    libertycaps Forum Resident

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    30T '79 was on deck for todays pool shootin' sesh. Made it thru all 3 discs. Cape Cod Lobster (Rock 'n) Roll!
     
  7. Freebird

    Freebird Was 205 pounds, now 215.

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    Dicks Picks 21 (11/1/85). Superb recording for headphones. Makes me think the recorder/sound engineer/mixer was wearing headphones and really digging what was happening.
     
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  8. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    Testify! It's one of the non-extended jam vehicles that I never skip. I'm partial to the version from 9/28/75. Not that it's this big deal, but Jerry plays this inflection-laden, very note dense riff from 5:32-5:40 that oozes everything his playing was ever about. Play that 9 seconds for anyone and you'll find out if they're a Jerry fan.
     
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  9. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Matthew 21:17

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    There were some weird lyrics in those first versions of St.
    Don Rich, guitarist for the Buckaroos, and Tom Brumley on pedal steel were a big influence on Garcia's approach to both instruments.



    The Buck Owens ranch show is a good place to see them in action, all of the numbers were shot live, though Rich cuts loose a bit more on the albums, he taught his licks to Brumley so he could sing harmonies with Buck.
     
  10. Freebird

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    I wonder how often Lost Sailor and Saint Of Circumstance were split with a Drums>Space like it is on 11/1/85 (DP 21).
     
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  11. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Matthew 21:17

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    More Don Rich and the Buckaroos:


    The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down - This used to exist in better SQ on Youtube.
     
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  12. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Matthew 21:17

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  13. WaterLemon

    WaterLemon Forum Resident

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    Definitely a very good show. Garcia is great on Rider, too.
     
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  14. heathen

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    I love Lost Sailor and Saint of Circumstance. Even though Bob has so much trouble hitting that "You're a loooooooost sailor" right most of the time.
     
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  15. Jack Cerro

    Jack Cerro Forum Resident


    This?

     
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  16. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    Yeah, but you missed the first ~2 seconds of it in that clip. The stuff after what I mentioned on that clip is great too, as Jerry quickly finds the melodic mantra and thus endeth the proceedings.
     
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  17. Musician magazine once featured an interview-conversation with Elvis Costello and Jerry Garcia. Costello mentioned that Garcia's guitar solos often partook of Don Rich's tendency to start on a high note and end on a low one, the exact opposite of the general run of rock guitar solos, which are much more identified with flashy runs up the fretboard neck that end with bending up on the highest notes. Garcia is practically unique for sometimes constructing guitar lines that run in the opposite direction with that Bakersfield country style of playing, particularly for the country cover tunes and ballads. It works well as a narrative technique. Sometimes the ending line with the low notes reminds me of the underlined flourish beneath a fountain pen signature. Calligraphy. Or he'll make a solo statement, and then add a descending line in diminuendo like a vanishing act, clearing the way to open up the rest of the song.

    Garcia does play ascending lines as well, of course. And he does sometimes end them with crescendos- like the "Tiger" passage that shows up in Dark Star", or the spiral climb of "Slipknot" (although that one ends with an underline.) Or he uses fanned chords- "Morning Dew", the later versions of "Jack Straw." But as a rule, they don't resemble the usual guitar-hero sprints up the neck. I was just reading an interview the other day where Jerry mentions that he typically doesn't bend the notes at the end of a solo- when he uses bends, he puts them in the middle of his phrases. If you've been paying attention, you know that already.
     
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  18. DoDahman

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    And THAT is RAD!!
     
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  19. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

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  20. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    I think that was the only time.
     
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  21. Mr Bassie

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    IMO Hank Williams is one of the greatest songwriters of all time, especially considering he died at 29. Get one of his many greatest hits compilations. Guarantee you will recognize some of he songs from other artists. The GD released their cover of You Win Again on Europe ‘72.
     
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  22. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    In 4/22/78 Weir plays a bit of Lost Sailor between songs early in the second set.
     
  23. Mr Bassie

    Mr Bassie Back for more

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    I guess actually you were looking for Bakersfield country, not country in general. I should have paid better attention to what you posted. Sorry.
     
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  24. Howard Bleach

    Howard Bleach Imperial Aerosol Kid

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    I dunno, guys. I've always loved "Lost Sailor" (and "Saint of Circumstance")! Always welcome on any tape.
     
  25. Monroro

    Monroro Forum Resident

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    I'll have to try that. I listen to a matrix of that show recently and, man, the crowd interaction and the vibe in the room that night was something.
     
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