Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.
My brain skipped a beat and missed notesofa's bottom post> sorry Gents...
IIRC Jerry is pretty prominent in the vocals on that one.
Because it's a major letdown from September-October of 76 (like the rest of 77)?
He would talk to the equipment 'how could you fail me now? what did I do to make you hate me....etc.'
You sly devil you!
28 March 1973- Springfield.
Weather Report Suite: Prelude > Dark Star > Eyes of the World > Playing In The Band; Johnny B. Goode
We need a few more. Then we can have a tourney. 32 would be good. These are short segments.
The Best Meltdowns Ever - This is the list
** For NCAA-Style Tourament **
Meltdown defined loosely similar as a Tiger Jam, or
neither a particular riff or a vague meltdown, but rather a specific vehicle employed to explore the more explosive experimental music that the band had gotten into. it was a distinct jam that, despite it's atonal and seemingly formless nature, had all of the band members playing relatively consistent roles and parts every time- most notably garcia's wailing and descending wah phrases and phil's distorted chords.
Should be short burts from 2-4 minutes. e.g. an entire feedback probably doesn't count
Internet Archive Forums: Tiger Jam
Internet Archive Forums: Tiger Jam/Meltdown Riff
Internet Archive Forums: Scare me please...
Drums > Space doesn't count
Seastones doesn't count
5/11/72 - DS (32:00 - 36:00)
5/13/72 - TOO (17:30 - 21:00)
5/18/72 - DS (23:00 - 28:00
8/21/72 - DS (16:30 - 22:30)
8/24/72 - DS (16:00 - 21:30)
8/25/72 - TOO (24:30 - end, not on archive.org, only with DaP 24)
8/27/72 - DS (26:30 - 30:30)
9/3/72 - TOO (25:00 - 26:50)
11/13/72 - DS (24:00 - 25:20)
4/2/73 - Hear Comes Sunshine (16:30 - 20:00)
6/26/73 - TOO (13:30 - 18:00)
10/19/73 - DS (in the MLB track 7:00 - 9:30)
10/25/73 - DS after MLB Jam (11:30 - end)
11/23/73 - TOO (16:00 - 19:00)
12/2/73 - PITB (16:30 - end)
12/8/73 - TOO (24:30 - end)
12/18/73 - DS (17:30 - end)
12/19/73 - TOO (11:30 - end)
5/14/74 - DS (18:30 - 20:50)
5/21/74 - PITB (13:15 - 14:55)
6/8/74 - PITB (14:00 - 16:30)
6/18/74 - TOO (8:00 - 12:00)
6/28/74 - Jam (21:00 - 25:30)
7/21/74 - PITB (10:30 - 14:30)
9/10/74 - DS (in the "Jam" track DP 7 1:30 - 4:30)
3/23/75 - Blues For Allah 1 (6:30 - 8:20)
2/26/77 - PITB (8:20 - 9:10)
3/25/83 - LIG (6:55 - 7:30)
Might be easier in it's own thread...but sounds fun as hell to listen and vote if you give people a few days for each bracket...
Three from The Vault
February 19, 1971, Capitol Theatre, Port Chester, NY
A nice show (the first without Mickey Hart in over three years) with great sound since it was recorded to multitrack for possible inclusion on the self-titled 1971 live double album that would eventually come out that fall. Highlights include rarities such as the traditional tune “Dark Hollow” and a 14-minute churning, slow-burn “Smokestack Lightning”. Plus, what other band opens their show with two short old-timey ditties?
Thank you for posting these. Don't think I've seen too many pictures of Bear. Either that or I didn't know it was him.
A few other tasty morsels:
2/23/74 - TOO (10:00 - 12:00)
7/27/74 - PITB (17:00 - 18:00)
7/29/74 - TOO (8:00 - 9:20)
8/4/74 - LIG !!! (15:00 - 17:30)
8/6/74 - TOO !!! (6:00 - 8:20)
7/29/88 - PITB (5:00 - 9:30)
A show from 1988 makes it...and it's pretty good too. At Laguna Seca.
I was randomly perusing old posts and came across this post from a couple years back:
Only in the Good Ol’ Grateful Thread.
Bear was very camera shy.
5/26/93 PITB for later meltdown entry
I was considering mentioning that one too. Mainly the last minute or so before Garcia leaves for Drums.
From the Dark Star on Bobby's 42nd birthday. 10-16-1989
Of the later Dark Stars, the main meltdown I remember is 10/9/89 between the second verse and Drums.
First of all, if you're running a GD meltdown tourney and don't include 25:00-28:09 of the 4/8/72 Dark Star, you've not only dropped the ball, you've turned it over for a dunk going the other way. Of course, much of what makes this melt so great is its dichotomous resolution.
BANG ON, I'd probably seed this as #1 without having to listen to the rest. And I'm a '72-'74 guy. But it doesn't really get atonal until about 6:45 (Jerry's certainly pushing it, however); let's call it 6:30. No matter; just trying to focus on keeping things in the 2-4 minute range.
I'm sure there must be a few more from the later years, I see some people chimed in with 88 and 93 since I started writing last night. There's got to be a couple from 78-80, and I'd bet from 91 also.
Not much melting down in that era from what I remember. Maybe 11/6/79 Playing?
My theory is there's got to be at least one or two in one of those jams they did between the last song before drums and drums itself. There are a couple of times where space comes before drums in that era; I'll check my notes, I will usually note that kind of thing, though I wasn't necessarily listening for that specifically.
There's almost one in the 1-15-78 playin in the band, but it's not quite all there, Garcia's the only one who builds up the intensity and it returns to more of a Playin' theme rather than going all the way to meltdown mode.
1/15/79 Playing gets pretty frenetic from what I remember, but not sure it gets near a meltdown. The January 79 Dark Stars maybe in the ballpark too.
How about the 12/28/79 Playing?
Gah! I got so caught up in the 4/8/72 omission that I forgot to mention the 3/23/72 Dark Star from 11:30-15:00.
So, me being the inquisitive type regarding these things, which are your favorites?
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