The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Just hit the east side of the LBC
    On a mission tryin' to find Mr. Jerry G

    PiTB is very nice from this set also.
     
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  2. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Honestly, it's an 11-minute 1980 PiTB that's surprisingly excellent. There's gold to be found in these 1980 shows, boys...
     
  3. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    I'm 51 years old, and I recall a man saying that time goes by like hurricanes running after subway trains....I'm going to use that which remains to me evangelizing for 1980s Dead. And, in "1980s Dead" I am including all worthy shows from 1979 and the 1990s, selected according to the scientifically proven "No True Scotsman" criterion...
     
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  4. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    OK, I watched that same video again real quick. Without claiming to be an expert on guitar playing, I think I can say that he has a lot of facility, but even more so he has a presence, touch, and energy to his playing that make it excellent. Note how he enters for his second solo. As far as what he's playing, it's all pretty straightforward....I don't know if it gets more interesting than this, but he's nailing this stuff.


    @wavethatflag

    @Archtop

    I clicked another one randomly, "He's Gone." Solo circa 4:30:

    Jerry's Middle Finger (JMF) Feat Garrett Deloian on Cripe - He's Gone- Sweetwater - Mill Valley, CA

    Again, he's playing no more nor less than what Jerry might play. Note how much authority he plays with, however, like every note is weighted down with lead weights. That is why, again, I find it impressive. I must say I haven't heard anything that made me say "What a great idea!" But he's nailing what he's doing...the feller is executing. I love the sound and approach, he absolutely owns every note he plays.
     
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  5. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    There had been rumors about the band practicing Help>Slip and Dark Star, but no rumors about Attics. And anyway, many rumors in those years turned out not to be true. Anyway, Attics was more than just gravy that night, and after it no one left the building, we all just stayed put and cheered and clapped for at least five minutes after it. In nearly 250 GD shows that I was at, that was the only time that happened.

    And I know I have told this story before here, but when we all finally left the building, Heads were going ape**** as if the Good Ol Grateful Dead has just won the Super Bowl... A genuinely puzzled cop came up and asked me “what the heck happened in there?” I said “it’s kind of hard to explain, officer”
     
  6. budwhite

    budwhite Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.

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    Götaland, Sverige
    Set 2

    He's Gone, Greatest Story Ever Told, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Truckin' > The Other One Jam > Drums > The Other One > Wharf Rat, Sugar Magnolia, Sing Me Back Home, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away

    07/25/72
    Paramount Theatre - Portland, OR
     
  7. *Zod*

    *Zod* Forum Resident

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    it's time for June 1990, however they want to do it, but all of Cal Expo makes the most sense.
     
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  8. fishcane

    fishcane Dirt Farmer

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    Ive been waiting for "Truckin' up to Buffalo" vol II for a while now! cmon, 1990 was the best show they did in that hole!
     
  9. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Might be overstated. Note I didn't say anything about him that couldn't have been concluded by a non-musician, anyway.
     
  10. fishcane

    fishcane Dirt Farmer

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  11. John69

    John69 Forum Resident

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    Thanks for posting that link. Volume 17 - Hallway Dancing - That's my best and oldest friend in the middle picture dancing at The Kaiser. The guy on the left side of the frame. I used to have a hard copy but I think it's long gone. I'll have to forward the link to him. A nice visual reminder of great times!
     
  12. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Perhaps more clearly stated: Brent and Vince era shows.

    PS- Enjoy your 50's they go past kinda quickly
     
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  13. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    No question about it; and the vocals are top-shelf, which is rare. Funny; Garrett looks like 1971 Jerry in the I Need a MiracleMoney Honey viddy, but he's the spitting image of Weird Al Yankovic in the He's Gone video. He's channeling Jerry quite nicely, but I want to hear the band go somewhere with Garrett letting loose. The potential has to be there, but perhaps that's just not their thing. Just when they end He's Gone is where I'd want to take it to a smoking cauldron and then blast out a Hard to Handle jam that blows the back wall clear to hell.
     
  14. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Yeah, my life is 9/10ths over at this point considering experiential time and the way it continually accelerates...
     
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  15. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Well, I retagged all my FLACs, the labor of a couple hours...and now with the tiny screen I have, I have a list of "Grateful Dead 19"s to choose from. I guess I should have made it all "GD19xx." If I ever get the energy to redo them, I'll do just that; for now, I just have to remember what the labels are and count down from the top until I think I have the correct year(s).
     
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  16. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Yes, I'm not sure if it ever gets very imaginative, which is why I qualified it on rewatching...probably be fun to go see them either way, though.
     
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  17. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Bird Song 1973-07-27...very good version, yet it must be the sleepiest version ever...

    I also listened to PiTB from 1993-05-26 4 or 5 times before that, that has to be one of the best things they ever did...I knew it was good but I don't think I ever fully grasped that it is one of their top moments.
     
  18. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Always a glutton for hyperbole, I couldn't resist. I have to say that I simply don't care at all for Vince's keyboard sound from this era and Phil's bass playing is choppy (not so good) rather than being herky-jerky (really great). So this one doesn't stand a chance, right? Well, I gave it one, and my take is that it's one of the best things Jerry ever did (e.g., see 11:00-12:35), but not one of the best collective improvs, to my ears. Nonetheless, high marks.
     
  19. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    Soon after I got into the Dead in 1993 I heard that on the Dead Hour. It gave me hope for a while that they could do improv in their current shows that ranked with their best.
     
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  20. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    Interesting idea. I may follow suit and change the Artist tag to include the year as well.
    Currently, I have releases segregated by title and number with the date prominent in the Album tag. Unofficial downloads are YYYY-MM-DD then location in the album tag.
    I do have the year (performance, not release) tagged but haven’t found a good way to use that field to help with sorting. This is all in iTunes, by the way.
     
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  21. bzfgt

    bzfgt Interesting and Copacetic Denizen

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    Watkins Glen "Jam", it took me years to really love this as much as I do this day. It's subtle (up until the proto-FOTM).

    PiTB 1988-07-29 currently playing. Out there.

    1989-10-08 Bird Song I listened to much earlier but forgot to mention....it's big and midied and muddy and tacky, a seriously weird version.
     
  22. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Grasshopper: You must learn to slow down time. This is the key to the next 50 years. :tiphat:
     
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  23. Freebird

    Freebird One in a million

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    Indiana
    A spectacular Brown-eyed Women caught my ear last night and I asked myself this question, “What ‘77 show is this?”

    And the answer... September 2, 1983 (Dave’s Picks Vol. 27)
     
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  24. dtuck90

    dtuck90 Forum Resident

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    It would be wrong to not listen to these shows this weekend
     
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  25. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    For a really interesting series of takes on the non linearity of time, read Einstein’s Dreams by Alan Lightman.
    Douglas Adams had some other interesting ideas about time in the Hitchhikers series. “Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.”
     

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