The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. I’m certainly not talking about the ethics of streaming or knocking it. I simply feel that artist should negotiate and get better % from their labels for their cuts. I also feel $12 a month for everything is too cheap to sustain what artists should get. Imho it should cost about twice that. $25 would not be unreasonable. That’s about two hours of a minimum wage earner
     
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  2. Jerfan13

    Jerfan13 Makes wrinkles advertised as creases

    He had his tape deck strapped to his chest. You tell me. I’ll ask him. Go to the Archive and read Dean Grabski’s notes. Then go down his worm hole and listen to his recordings...for the rest of your life. I do.

    Sony TCD 5M
     
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  3. Jerfan13

    Jerfan13 Makes wrinkles advertised as creases

    Meh...it’s okay. It’s ‘71...I don’t too excited. Very tame, good timey band.
     
  4. diamondstylus

    diamondstylus Forum Resident

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    I think they said next weeks show is Buffalo 90.
     
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  5. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    It's stupid... but I kind of think of streaming services like renting. Throwing money away every month and owning nothing at the end of it. I know that's a smart way to look at things, but that's how I feel about them. Can't bring myself to do it. I'm having a hard enough time convincing myself to sign up for Netflix...
     
  6. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    That's exactly what they said.
     
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  7. peskypesky

    peskypesky Forum Resident

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    Same.

    It has taken me 35 years to finally like the Dead. And now I can't stop listening.
     
  8. ratstack

    ratstack Forum Resident

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    Fair enough, I can dig that. I do think they should get more per stream. That said, I often use Apple (and Amazon HD) to stream things I already own or at least once owned. Also I use it as a music discovery tool. I’ll go exploring, find an artist I like, and if I like what I hear I’ll buy their CDs and or records. A recent example for me, is Charlie Parr. I would have never heard of him without Apple’s recommendation. I listened to several of his songs, liked what I heard, then ordered four of his LPs from Amazon.

    Also, to get wonky about it, I know this wouldn’t hold true for everyone, and I’m not sure what artists make on CD sales today, but traditionally they never pocketed much. Maybe like $.50 per cd. For a lifetime purchase. Apple averages $.00735 per stream, which sounds awful. But say I’m on a Pixies kick and I listen to all of their albums once in a month. They just made more than they would have had I bought one. Then I do the same next month, then double that the following month because I’m really on a deep kick. Then revisit through the years over and over... starts adding up.
     
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  9. Jerfan13

    Jerfan13 Makes wrinkles advertised as creases

    I just won’t accept the idea that a 5yr old band is better than 25yr old band. I know they wouldn’t. The beautimous part is they’re the best band every year I wanna listen.
     
  10. Jerfan13

    Jerfan13 Makes wrinkles advertised as creases

    There’s not a sustainable market that would pay $25/mo. No way, no how. I’d pay $50 a year tops...and I’d split that with someone, assuming you could have 2 IP addresses. Think of all the other money shelled out for tv nowadays. A viable market will not swap video for audio that is already out there for free.
     
  11. peskypesky

    peskypesky Forum Resident

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    Minimum wage earners can't even pay their rent, much less spend $25/month on music.

    Minimum wage doesn't cover the rent anywhere in the U.S.
     
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  12. Frosst

    Frosst Vinyl-obsessive kiddo

    Location:
    Sweden
    Just revisited 8/23/68 (Shrine Auditorium). This is a monster show. Every song here is just insane. Highlights includes The Other One, Dark Star, Alligator, The Eleven and St. Stephen. Jerry's playing throughout are incredible and Phil's bass is loud and powerful. One of the best shows of '68.


    Earlier today I listened to 10/26/89 (Miami Arena). My fave late-era Dark Star is one of the highlights here. A superb Blow Away, Estimated Prophet, The Wheel, NFA and Stella Blue are other highlights. The band is just on throughout and the result is truly magical.
     
  13. anth67

    anth67 Purveyor of Hogwash

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    Some different early lyrics on William Tell, if memory serves. I need to dust that one off soon.
     
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  14. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

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  15. peskypesky

    peskypesky Forum Resident

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    that's economics!

    "Economics is the social science that studies the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services."
     
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  16. You never bought 2 CDs or albums in one month ? Streaming is less even at $25
     
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  17. That’s economic. Not the same thing as politics
     
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  18. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    But you should. :)
     
  19. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    Hot show from an underrated year. Particularly the Spring tour.
     
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  20. Bill Cormier

    Bill Cormier Forum Resident

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    Oh wow, I didn`t see that, cool!
     
  21. Bill Cormier

    Bill Cormier Forum Resident

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    Way cool!
     
  22. Erik B.

    Erik B. Tighter than Mike Gordon’s jeans

    6/24/1985 Cinci, OH

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  23. trd

    trd Forum Resident

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    Cassette deck

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  24. Erik B.

    Erik B. Tighter than Mike Gordon’s jeans

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  25. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    That’s... Really not the point. On a number of levels.
     

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