The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

    Oakland, CA
    I don’t know what you mean by Missile Command but City Island, Harrisburg 6/22/83 has a Three Mile Island-inspired Space.
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  2. SJR

    SJR Senior Member

    This morning’s listening is (half of) Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 3: Wall Of Sound — State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA, 16/06/74.

    Now this is primo-1974; an absolutely fantastic, first-rate release and one of my favourites from the entire Road Trips series. I just love the whole vibe, here.

    Across the 3CD set there’s some phenomenal highlights from all three sets, though it’s definitely worth hearing the whole show in all its super-jammy glory.

    1st Set:
    • China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider — a remarkable, super-groovin’ beast; this is one massively epic, jazzy and funky all-timer contender. It’s totally enthralling and utterly marvellous, with a magical transition jam—a stone-cold masterpiece;
    (The whole) 2nd Set:
    • U.S. Blues — opening the 2nd set is this powerfully energetic rocker, with some wicked jamming highlighting exceptional band interplay;
    • The Race Is On — Keith’s keys are the wonderful highlight, here. It’s a crazy rockin’ hoedown;
    • Eyes Of The World > Big River — a clean and tight, jazzy-tinged, mega-jammy epic Eyes (check out the phenomenon that is Billy, on drums—just wow) > with a jaw-dropping, wildly thrilling transition (that is so funky, reminiscent of some of Miles’ fusion work—it’s so damn sublime; it’s pure killer) into a rippin’ Big River;
    • Playing In The Band — a monster 29-minute PITB that starts out as normal before taking a turn to the dark side and into some incredible deep-space exploration, it’s free-form and it’s avant—and it’s not for the faint-of-heart; featuring weird “out there” squelchy bleeps and electronic sounds (courtesy of Ned Lagin?) and an unsettling, darkly intense meltdown freak-out before steering back into the main theme and reprise; constantly evolving and keeping things interesting, this is highly fascinating and completely mesmerising—a top version.
    (The bulk of the) 3rd Set:
    • Deal — spritely and bouncy, this rollicking Deal is goin’ down good—diggin’ the Fender Rhodes embellishments from Keith, and Jerry’s lengthy soloing;
    • Greatest Story Ever Told — an insanely passionate, off-the-charts blazing hot scorcher, with scintillating soloing and tight-as-a-duck’s-ass groove. A real “bobby-dazzler”;
    • Truckin’ > Nobody’s Fault But Mine Jam > Wharf Rat > Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad — an incredibly bluesy, and at times jazzy, outrageously wailing mega-jam that’s right-in-the-pocket with a soulful, soaring Wharf Rat slap-bang at the heart of the sequence.
    It’s like, totally essential, man. Transcendental—especially with the Bonus Disc material. Oh, and they do it all again, arguably even better, a couple of days later! F u c k me.

    I: Bertha, Mexicali Blues, Row Jimmy, Beat It On Down The Line, Scarlet Begonias, Black-Throated Wind, Sugaree, El Paso, It Must Have Been The Roses, Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower* > I Know You Rider*, Around And Around.

    II: U.S. Blues*, The Race Is On*, Eyes Of The World* > Big River*, Playing In The Band*.

    III: Tennessee Jed, Me And My Uncle, Deal**, Greatest Story Ever Told**, Ship Of Fools, Truckin’** > Nobody’s Fault But Mine Jam** > Wharf Rat** > Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad**.

    E: Casey Jones.

    *on RT 2.3.
    **on RT 2.3. Bonus Disc.

    1974/2009 Grateful Dead Records ‎– GRA2-6007
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  3. LandHorses

    LandHorses Forum Resident

    New Joisey
    9/12/93 Spectrum's space has some missiles and air raid sirens in it.

    I've mentioned it before here as a favorite latter year space segment.
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  4. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    Probably already mentioned, but if not: Laguna Seca Raceway in both 1987 and 1988. I was at the '88 shows. Shows 2, 3 and 4 for me, they were. Camped onsite, was never the same after that weekend. I had become a bonafide Dead Head.
  5. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    New Jersey
    Start with China>Rider, that might could help
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  6. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    12/8/90 has some pretty 'apocalypse now' type bombs-going-off stuff during 'drums'
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  7. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    Mine was sandwiched between China & Rider. 2nd show. High Times!
  8. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    12/3 was pretty flat. 12/4 they recovered somewhat. By the time they got to Arizona for shows on the 9th and 10th they were rolling.
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  9. tdcrjeff

    tdcrjeff Forum Resident

    Hermosa Beach, CA
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  10. ducksdeluxe

    ducksdeluxe Senior Member

    I was there both years. 88 was a phenomenal weekend with Los Lobos and David Lindley. And that PITB. 87 was just OK, but Uncle Bill made a stop in our campsite on Sunday morning as he made his morning rounds on a mini-bike. I was the only one awake that early. We exchanged good mornings and he was off.
  11. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

    Reno, NV, USA
    I think Dave could do a better job, and I agree completely that I am quibbling, and that as noted he has neither the first nor the last say in what is released when. So like many others here I'm sure I could do a better job in theory, although probably not in practice.
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  12. Totally. The highlight is when Bobby announces the set break while they are still playing I Know You Rider. Pure, classy show business right there.

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  13. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    But it wasn't until they got to Denver on the 12th that the Dark Star poured its light into ashes.
  14. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    But, but, it's not from 1985! :p
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  15. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Dedicated Follower of Hi-Fi

    New Mexico USA
    I enthusiastically support this ban, and propose a codicil that would also brutally suppress the idiom “an unfair amount of poop flung his way” as a way to describe “unjustified criticism.”
  16. kevin

    kevin Senior Member

    Evanston IL
    Now listening to 6/14/84[Red Rocks]on TIGDH on SiriusXM's Grateful Dead channel via the webstream now playing Playing In The Band
  17. ducksdeluxe

    ducksdeluxe Senior Member

  18. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

    Long River Place
    This is undeniably true as I didn't go to any early 80s shows and yet I think Lost Sailor (almost) always sounds great.
  19. dsdu

    dsdu less serious minor pest

    Santa Cruz, CA
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  20. Mr. Rain

    Mr. Rain Forum Resident

    The true obsessive would listen to each show make sure you didn't miss any notes. :D
  21. Jim Walker

    Jim Walker Forum Resident

    southeast porttown
    This has to be one of my top shelf shows of 1974, the thrills are too numerous to name or count.
    My first time listening to this had me so freaked out by the second disc, I had to stop. lol
    Not too many spins that I can say that about, maybe it was the sunflower seeds and ginger ale.

    NP... the complete second set of Missoula 5-14-74, just a few weeks later.
    After spinning El Paso again, it gets a little more love, Keith is on fire, his
    playing throughout is terrific, actually, US Blues great again too. With a
    fierce storms on the horizon, coming through most any time, Weather Report Suite
    and Dark Star should fittingly have me mesmerized by not only the notes, but the
    furious elements.
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  22. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    New Jersey
    Don't think I haven't thought of that
  23. tobyd

    tobyd there can be only studio one

    Washington, D.C.
    One of these years I'll find it and you'll know that in fact I AM totally nuts!
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  24. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    New Jersey
    Notes, some from last year...I downgraded a few things since then, though....(chair thing)

    1969-04-23 Ark Miller sbd 88501 Introduced as “The best f**cking rock and roll band in the world!” so of course they open with He Was a Friend of Mine; good guitar, rather bad singing. **Dark Star** Garcia blows, the 69 sound, all is good. St. Stephen>It’s a Sin>St. Stephen again; “It’s a Sin” sung somewhat badly by Garcia, again good guitar though, then back to SS>Cryptical. Other One maybe slightly disjointed at times, but spirited; at 4:34 a rolling passage after a build, then from 4:39 to 4:57 Garcia repeats a high note, very intense, then “falls” off so to speak. **Morning Dew** opens 2nd set, hits a nice peak on 2nd solo break. **Doin that Rag** Jerry’s bad vocals are good; leaves out the hipsters/chicksters. Alligator jam is very short, but they work it in in a 17-minute **The Eleven** that goes all over; it starts drifting away from The Eleven, gets to Mtn. Jam hints at 10:15…AWBYG jam at 11:15; full Mtn Jam at 12:30 after a very dramatic build-up! Many dramatic moments….13:50 to 14:15 is positively histrionic! This could fairly be tracked 11>jam as they never get back to it, but go into a hot **Caution** **Feedback** very melodic and/or tonal, compare 11-08. A relatively complete **AWBYG**.

    EDIT: all the references to bad singing were in the original though, so I'm consistent there
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  25. dgwint

    dgwint Forum Resident

    My fav of the Ark run is 4/22 by a country mile.

    Release the Ark box already!!!

    I'm not getting any younger ya know!
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