The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

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    Perhaps not in your physical music collection; the speed/pitch seems a bit fast, so getting the download and fixing that is better from a musical sense. The show is great stuff (for the '80's).
     
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  2. KeithGodchaux

    KeithGodchaux Not To Be Taken Away

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    I listened to most of this today. It didn't have my undivided attention, as I was working while listening, but Wharf Rat is one of my favs (at least pre-hiatus; I prefer these because only Jerry sings on them). Anyway, Jerry's guitar is extra loud and crunchy on my SBD and the Wharf Rat is fantastic.

    Speaking of Wharf Rats - someone mentioned opening night E72 - also a fan of this one. I like when the opening guitar strumming smoothly floats you away like a Persian carpet ride through a nitrous atmosphere. I don't care for live Dead with overdubs, so I avoid where I can.
    4/24/72 from Rockin' The Rhein has that awesome Wharf Rat coming out of that awesome Dark Star, Pt. 2. You know you've arrived when you hear Keith tapping on the pinky keys. And if that's not enough...the Sugar Magnolia is also outstanding.

    But back to 9/28. I have some "alone time" to really dig in now.
     
  3. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    For an 80's board, MSG 81 (and the other shows in the box, I think) is a good mix, I guess because it was a big enough room that Healy needed to set Garcia's guitar at a loud volume in the PA.
     
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  4. tdcrjeff

    tdcrjeff Senior Member

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    Summer '71 sure is HARD TO HANDLE!

    I know nearly everyone picks the Palladium 1971.08.06 as their favorite but I pick the 1971.08.07 San Diego one on DiP35.
    Colloquially known as the "shoot 'em saloon band."
     
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  5. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    Change that 1991 to 1993 in my case, otherwise same here.
     
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  6. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    The piano playing on the Skull and Roses Wharf Rat seems very similar to Jerry’s style on the Garcia (first) solo album, so my money is on him.
     
  7. outrolado

    outrolado Forum Resident

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    If you don't want the full box, but want to own something from this release, it is a solid show and it sounds great. I'd say it is worth it
     
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  8. outrolado

    outrolado Forum Resident

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    I recall this being talked about in one of the Deadcast episodes for Skull and Roses. Most of the commentators were sure it was Jerry playing piano on the overdubs
     
  9. johnnypaddock

    johnnypaddock Senior Member

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    I’d say that 9/28 is the equal of the previous night. The run of He's Gone > The Other One > Me & Bobby McGee > The Other One > Wharf Rat is some of the best music I've ever heard.

    Actually, just typing that I felt compelled to go back for a listen.

    He's Gone is gorgeous. It eventually dissolves into a bare bones Phil/Billy jam over the last few minutes with a seamless transition into an an all time classic The Other One, easily one of my favorites. It's so subtle, taking it's sweet time to get where it's going, but it never drags for one second. Around 14 minutes in, the main theme kicks in again and the pace picks up big time through the vocals before going back to outer space. The jam that follows is genius, bordering on total insanity before breaking into near silence, Keith playing this beautiful little piano part and Weir going into Bobby McGee.

    I can usually take or leave Me & Bobby McGee, but this one coming out of that jam lands perfectly. They go back to The Other One, into one of my favorite performances of Wharf Rat to close out the run. It's an unbelievable 60 minute stretch.

    EDIT: I just realized this set keeps going after the Sugar Mag that follow. I'm not sure how my version missed this but now I've got to listen to the rest!
     
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  10. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    the exception that proves the rule?
     
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  11. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions
     
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  12. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    Somebody’s got to have put together a video of all the times Homer has ever said Stupid Flanders”. I’m putting the over/under on video length at 7:00.
     
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  13. SJR

    SJR Big Boss Man

    It’s a rippin’ finale, too!
     
  14. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    I told my wife that I thought these two were responsible for launching the same-sex marriage initiative in Cuba. She had no idea who I was talking about.
     
  15. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    Maybe if I added “The” in front of my name, I’d get more likes.
     
  16. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    Charlton, MA, USA
    Maybe if I added “BOX” after my name, I’d get more likes.
     
  17. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    Charlton, MA, USA
    just gotta jiggle the handle
     
  18. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

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    I've had a lousy tape of this second set since about 1983 and the meltdown before Bobby McGee I labelled as "Foam." I mean, it sounds like foam to me. Thick air mixed with a surfactant. The way Bobby McGee crystallizes out that passage is just exactly perfect, as you say. Phil lays down a lovely triple start near the very beginning of McGee (naturally on the 2, because Phil).
     
  19. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    You now know him as Duffy Shrimpton.
     
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  20. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    DICK’S
    VOLUME
    ONE

    PICKS
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  21. AintGotHalfOf

    AintGotHalfOf Forum Resident

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    Poor kid had too much too fast
     
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  22. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    Latvala Volume Two
    Columbus, Ohio
    Halloween 1971
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    An hour of pure joy.
     
  23. Mr_Flanders

    Mr_Flanders Forum Resident

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    I accept this as fair criticism for my transgressions.
     
  24. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    Your DP VOL 1 is in much better shape than mine. Mine got dragged around everywhere, and played in everything, when I first got it when it first came out. But I sure got my money’s worth. :D
     
  25. OhioHead

    OhioHead Forum Resident

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    Ohio
    Probably covered later in this thread (already)…..after Mickey left early in 71, the sound is stripped down, more focused, more “rock and roll bar band,” yes there are not 25, 30 minutes jams, a lot of new songs are introduced in 71 that take shape to become classic songs that are stretched out in 72, 73, 74. Playing comes to mind.

    Pig is still alive, his contribution on stage are less but you still get hot Hard to Handle, Good Loving, Lovelight, etc, thru the summer 71.

    Once Keith joins the band and gains his “sea legs” (checkout the 2nd half of fall tour 71) the next evolution of the GD has begun (stripped down Rock & Roll songs w/ ripping solos, to 20+ minute explorations, checkout the Other One from 10/29/71); Pig is back during December 71.

    71 is a very fun year, my earliest tapes were from 71 (April) and is an excellent year to get folks into live GD shows for reasons listed above (high quality tapes were easily available for 1st half of the year).

    As I recall fall 71 tapes did not circulate too widely so DiP #2 opened a lot of ears to the fall 71 (core 4 + Keith sprinkled in).
     
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