The Joni Mitchell Archives/Remasters Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by jlf, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. misteranderson

    misteranderson Forum Resident

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    Some demos from Hissing of Summer Lawns have circulated in pretty good quality for years. Off the top of my head, I forget how much material, but it's enough for most of a CD.

    I'll check and see...

    ...ok, shorter than I thought - 9 songs, 36 minutes. There's a version of Dreamland, and Hunter, or The Good Samaritan, which dates back to Blue. The other ones are all from Hissing.
     
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  2. misteranderson

    misteranderson Forum Resident

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    What sound does your jaw make when it hits the floor?

    Thanks!
     
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  3. I hope there is some unreleased Jaco in the vaults.
     
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  4. jlf

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    Oh but she does. She did lots of recording before the first album and had something like 4 albums worth of material ready before cutting her first album. Some have leaked to superfans but most are not circulating. And there are Mingus outtakes that recently appeared, alternate takes from Hejira that are known to exist, demos, live concerts pretty much every year from 1965-1976, not to mention lots of video footage in the vault.
     
  5. RickA

    RickA Love you forever Luke, we will be together again

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    WOW!!!
     
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  6. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    I suspect that they will also reissue her catalogue on vinyl. Blue appears to be out of print, and the other Rhino titles are getting a bit scarce.

    Did she lose tapes in the fire?
     
  7. jlf

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    Not sure about the Geffen stuff, but the fire did not affect anything from Warner (1963-1980, 1993-2002)
     
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  8. Daryl M

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    Target.....the department store Target?! That is an unlikely source for sure.
     
  9. jlf

    jlf Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    They do mostly online orders these days and often have listings early. I have no doubt these will disappear at some point, only to re-emerge once we get the official announcement.
     
  10. jlf

    jlf Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I’m betting that will be volume 2
     
  11. Cokelike-

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    That is great to hear. Hope her Geffen stuff is safe too.
     
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  12. Bhobb

    Bhobb Crate Digger

    This is rather pleasing news. Which is to say it's F****N' AWESOME.
     
  13. eelkiller

    eelkiller One of the great unwashed

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    Perhaps @Steel Woole can enlighten us as things get finalized?
     
  14. Cokelike-

    Cokelike- Forum Resident

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    Right?? Joni to the rescue!!
     
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  15. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk Sorry, I can't talk now, I'm listening to music...

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    I’ve been listening to Joni a lot lately. I am enjoying albums I only found mildly entertaining in the past and much of her wonderful catalog and enjoying all equally well. She is unconditionally to me the greatest female artist any genre any time and one of the all time artist period.
     
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  16. jlf

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    I'd have to agree, though I'm sure Joni would take issue with "female." ;) Love that quote -- "Everyone always calls me the female Bob Dylan but nobody ever calls him the male Joni Mitchell."
     
  17. jkauff

    jkauff Senior Member

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    I suspect these releases are happening for financial reasons. Although Joni, as a dual citizen, is eligible for Canadian health insurance, perhaps it doesn't cover all of the medical care she's had in the U.S. in the last few years. Other than royalties on her existing catalog and whatever she makes from her paintings, she hasn't had a source of income for years.
     
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  18. Parachute Woman

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    I definitely agree that Joni does not need the 'female' qualifier--to me, she is simply the greatest songwriter of the 20th century. However, I also don't think there is any denying that her work is deeply and specifically feminine and written from a woman's perspective, and that this is crucial to understanding it. Just as Marvin Gaye being African-American deeply informed his genius and commentary on What's Going On, I don't think we should completely overlook Joni's gender or pretend it isn't there. She blazed trails with that gender, influencing so many women who came after her to write fearlessly from their own uniquely female perspectives.

    (Also: calling her the 'female Bob Dylan' is awful! I completely agree with her there and I can see exactly why that would drive her nuts. As if her work can only be appraised when viewed through the lens of a different (male) artist. He shouldn't be the male Joni either. They are two different people with their own pretty vastly different artistic perspectives).
     
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  19. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member

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    Joni 75th came out on CD/LP/DVD/Blu/digital platforms.
     
  20. Black Elk

    Black Elk Music Lover

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    How much demand is there going to be for releases like these, though? They also cost money to create.

    Wouldn't an expanded Blue/Hejira/etc. make more sense if she needed money?
     
  21. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    i am in the minority when it comes to joni mitchell in that i much prefer her material form 'court and spark" onward than the earlier material. i can only hope these archive release are career covering.
     
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  22. jlf

    jlf Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    There was no BluRay
     
  23. jlf

    jlf Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Rhino tried this back in ‘07 or so. Catalog numbers were assigned, Amazon links went up, then they were canceled.
     
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  24. tug_of_war

    tug_of_war Unable to tolerate bass solos

    This is great news!
     
  25. jlf

    jlf Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    These canceled releases were 2CD editions of Court and Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns, and Hejira.
     

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