Sex, drugs, sneering John Lennon — and my ‘narcissistic’ brother, Ray Davies | Times2 | The Times I have not read this article yet because it's subscriber only. I recently read Kink, so I'm just wondering what his new book will offer? It seems we have heard all these stories before. @Wondergirl will have to let us know if it's worth picking up!
I should have clarified “autobiography”. We’ll see, but that first autobiography was published in 1995. He’s had a lifetime of good and bad things happen in just the time since then as has Ray. Obviously not much Kinks band related since they dissolved at this same time, but much personally for him. It’s his second autobiography of course and not a history of The Kinks per se, so we shall see.
We have a Winstanley Street 15 minutes away in Carindale. It used to be known for hosting a yearly fair with rides called the Crackerjack Festival and adjacent is a large council bus depot. As in Come Dancing the area has probably been "modernised" by now.
Nor am i not withstanding that i knew a (late) woman that told me how dreadfully he had behaved when she had come across him in public in the 60's.
Come Dancing with The Kinks: The Best of 1977-1986 Compilation album by the Kinks Released June 2, 1986 Genre Rock Length 80:48 (1986) 77:59 (2000) Label Arista Records Producer Dave Nives Side one 1. "You Really Got Me" (live) One for the Road 3:40 2. "Destroyer" Give the People What They Want 3:44 3. "(Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman" Low Budget 3:38 4. "Juke Box Music" Sleepwalker 3:42 5. "A Rock 'N' Roll Fantasy" Misfits 4:58 Side two 1. "Come Dancing" State of Confusion 3:54 2. "Sleepwalker" Sleepwalker 3:27 3. "Catch Me Now I'm Falling" Low Budget 4:02 4. "Do It Again" Word of Mouth 4:09 5. "Better Things" Give the People What They Want 2:58 Side three 1. "Lola" (live) One for the Road 5:42 2. "Low Budget" Arist 240b 3:46 3. "Long Distance" State of Confusion 5:20 4. "Heart of Gold" State of Confusion 4:02 5. "Don't Forget to Dance" State of Confusion 4:15 Side four 1. "Misfits" Misfits 4:19 2. "Living on a Thin Line" Word of Mouth 4:12 3. "Father Christmas" Arist 153 3:39 4. "Celluloid Heroes" (live) One for the Road 7:21 2000 compact disc reissue 1. "Come Dancing" Arist 502 3:56 2. "Low Budget" Arist 240b 3:49 3. "Catch Me Now I'm Falling" Low Budget 5:59 4. "A Gallon of Gas" Low Budget 3:50 5. "(Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman" Arist 12240 6:00 6. "Sleepwalker" Sleepwalker 4:04 7. "Full Moon" Sleepwalker 3:52 8. "Misfits" Misfits 4:42 9. "A Rock 'N' Roll Fantasy" Misfits 5:01 10. "Do It Again" Word of Mouth 4:11 11. "Better Things" Arist 415 2:59 12. "Lola" (live) One for the Road 4:47 13. "You Really Got Me" (live) One for the Road 3:40 14. "Good Day" Word of Mouth 4:35 15. "Living on a Thin Line" Word of Mouth 4:16 16. "Destroyer" Give the People What They Want 3:47 17. "Don't Forget to Dance" State of Confusion 4:39 18. "Father Christmas" Arist 153 3:42 For the most part I'm going to keep posting the compilations on Saturday, as I have been, but this album seems to need a bit of a nod of recognition. I also think it may perhaps need @Michael Streett to set us straight on what mixes were used, and if there are any alternate mixes/edits and such used here. I have the sacd of this, and bought it when I bought most of my other Kinks sacd's... I have played it a few times, mainly when people are over.... because most folks are only really going to be interested in Kinks best of's, unfortunately.... but I think it is a pretty good compilation. Obviously there are differences between the record and the cd here with the tracklistings being in a different order, and also that some of the song choices are different. Long Distance, Heart Of Gold, Juke Box Music and Celluloid Heroes (Live) don't make it onto the cd... They are substituted for Low Budget, Gallon Of Gas and Full Moon... Personally I like all seven songs, but the swaps seem weird to me... The Japanese pressing of the cd is different again 1 You Really Got Me (Live) 3:36 2 Destroyer 3:48 3 (Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman 3:37 4 Juke Box Music 3:47 5 A Rock 'N' Roll Fantasy 5:01 6 Come Dancing 3:57 7 Do It Again 4:11 8 Better Things 3:01 9 Lola (Live) 5:39 10 Low Budget 3:49 11 Long Distance 5:24 12 Heart Of Gold 4:03 13 Don't Forget To Dance 4:40 14 Living On A Thin Line 4:11 15 Father Christmas 3:44 16 Celluloid Heroes (Live) 7:25 So I guess in general there was contention about what should actually be on the album I guess. The UK singles during this time period were Sleepwalker Juke Box Music Father Christmas Rock And Roll Fantasy Life Life Black Messiah Superman Moving Pictures Pressure Lola (live) Better Things - 46 Predictable Come Dancing - 12 Don't Forget To Dance - 58 Good Day Do It Again The US singles during this period Sleepwalker - 48 Juke Box Music Father Christmas Rock And Roll Fantasy - 30 Live Life Superman - 41 Gallon Of Gas Catch Me Now I'm Falling Lola You Really Got Me Destroyer - 10 Better Things - 3 Come Dancing - 6 Don't Forget to Dance - 16 Do It Again - 4 Summer's Gone These are the official singles according to kindakinks.net and the chart positions according to wiki... the US chart positions are for the Mainstream Rock Chart, except Come Dancing which is the Billboard Hot 100 Now to throw matters into further confusion, for a single novice like me Celluloid Heroes (live) charted in the US on the billboard chart - 80 ... but I can't help wondering if it was actually the a-side Lola that charted. You Really Got Me (live) charted in the UK at 47 ... though kindakinks.net doesn't list it as a UK single State Of Confusion charted on the US Mainstream Rock Chart at 26 ... though it wasn't released as a single Living On A Thin Line charted on the US Mainstream Rock Chart at 24 ... though it was only available on a 12" promo So all of that from my perspective is really bloody confusing, and it seems no wonder that the best of the era was so seemingly confused in itself... I reckon there should have been two albums released for the Arista years in cd form, a double and a single disc edition... If I was putting this together on the chart figures, then Sleepwalker Rock And Roll Fantasy Superman Destroyer Better Things Come Dancing Don't Forget To Dance Do It Again are automatic inclusions and Celluloid Heroes You Really Got Me State Of Confusion Living On A Thin Line would seem like logical inclusions But as we know, I'm an oddball... I don't really like live tracks on best of compilations, so if I included a live cut, it would be one track and it would be the last track, for flow reasons. Live tracks don't flow well with studio tracks in my opinion. Personally, I wouldn't include You Really Got Me or Lola, because as songs they have already been included on tons of collections, even though these are the live versions.... So anyway, really thinking about it, my Come Dancing With The Kinks would look something like this my single cd Sleepwalker 4:04 Juke Box Music 3:47 Mr Big Man 3:49 Rock And Roll Fantasy 5:01 Misfits 4:41 In A Foreign Land 3:03 Superman 3:36 Catch Me Now I'm Falling 5:59 Moving Pictures 3:47 Destroyer 3:48 Add It Up 3:14 Better Things 3:01 Come Dancing 3:57 State Of Confusion 3:41 Don't Forget To Dance 4:40 Do It Again 4:11 Good Day 4:35 Living On a Thin Line 4:16 Celluloid Heroes (live) 7:25 my extra cd for the double cd version.. A sort of extra and unreleased tracks compile Father Christmas 3:44 Artificial Light 3:27 Prince Of The Punks 3:18 The Poseur 2:53 On The Outside 5:00 Elevator Man 3:48 Hidden Quality 3:05 Duke 3:28 Nuclear Love 2:40 Stolen Away Your Heart 3:00 Once A Thief 4:07 Noise 4:34 Long Distance 5:24 Slum Kids (live '79) 6:26 I don't know, maybe that wouldn't work, but it would work for me
Kompilations part 6 - 1986. The Kinks – Victoria Lola - The Best Of The Kinks 1968 - 1970 Label: SMS Records – MD35 5027, PRT – MD35 5027 Format: CD, Compilation Country: Japan Released: Apr 21, 1986 Genre: Rock Style: Classic Rock 1 Wonderboy 2 Polly 3 Days 4 She's Got Everything 5 Lincoln County 6 There Is No Life Without Love 7 Hold My Hand 8 Creeping Jean 9 Plastic Man 10 King Kong 11 Driving 12 Mindless Child Of Motherhood 13 Shangri-La 14 This Man He Weeps Tonight 15 Victoria 16 Mr. Churchill Says 17 Lola 18 Berkeley News 19 Apeman 20 Rats The Kinks – You Really Got Me - The Best Of The Kinks 1964 - 1967 Label: SMS Records – MD35 5026, PRT – MD35 5026 Format: CD, Compilation Country: Japan Released: Apr 21, 1986 Genre: Rock Style: Classic Rock 1 Long Tall Sally 2 You Still Want Me 3 You Do Something To Me 4 You Really Got Me 5 It's All Right 6 All Day And All Of The Night 7 I Gotta Move 8 Tired Of Waiting For You 9 Come On Now 10 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy 11 Who'll Be The Next In Line 12 Set Me Free 13 See My Friends 14 Never Met A Girl Like You Before 15 Till The End Of The Day 16 Where Have All the Good Times Gone 17 Dedicated Follower Of Fashion 18 Sitting On My Sofa 19 Sunny Afternoon 20 Dead End Street 21 Waterloo Sunset 22 Death Of The Clown 23 Autumn Almanac 24 Suzannah's Still Alive
The 'Come Dancing With The Kinks' album sleeve is one of their better ones imo with the tastefully tinted photo of Ray and his partner from the Come Dancing video, though by the same token I'm not sure how well it represents this 1977-84 era has a whole, which was of course the phase of their hugely successful stadium rock US comeback. 'Come Dancing' was the big hit of course but it was kinda atypical of this essence of this period, and I think something that spoke to their hard earned recognition as a frontline rock act during this time (maybe something closer to the 'One For The Road' sleeve) and how the double LP was packed with the cream of that era might have worked better overall.
Oct 1963 - Nov 1966 - Apr 1967 - Feb 1970 Nov 1970 - Jun 1976 Feb 1977 - Dec 1983 Starstruck promo video/ Days video/ Sunny Afternoon TOTP Oh Tokyo live in 1982 - lyrics Album flow chart Live In Frankfurt in 1984 Nov 1984 Word Of Mouth Do It Again - video - live 84 - live 87 - SNL - interview Word Of Mouth - SNL - live 84 Good Day - live 84 - 12" Living On A Thin Line - live 84 - Dave 2001 - Sopranos Sold Me Out Massive Reductions Guilty - live 89 Too Hot - single Missing Persons Summer's Gone - Full length Going Solo - original album edit The Dave songs up to this point Kompilations part 4 - 1984 The Arista Years Kompilations Part 5 - 1985 extras - 69, 73, 77 Supersonic Rocketship alt mix Celluloid Heroes mono Moving Pictures alt mix Interview Magazines - 2 - 3 - 4 Jul 1985 Return To Waterloo - documentary - Fan Soundtrack - Movie Intro Return To Waterloo - alternate - info - promo video Ladder Of Success - the late mix Going Solo Missing Persons Sold Me Out - original lp mix Lonely Hearts - album version The Good Times Are Gone/Not Far Away Expectations Return To Waterloo/Voices In The Dark - alt mix The Great Lost Kinks Movie -Village Voice 1985 April 1986 Absolute Beginners/Quiet Life June 1986 Come Dancing With The Kinks Kompilations pt 6 - 1986 Kinks live TOTP 1994 2001 Dave Davies Fragile Violet Dreams Dave Creeping Jean live 2004 2005 Thanksgiving Day Ray live on Conan Obrien Oct 2018 Dave Davies - Decade - interview If You Are Leaving (71) Cradle To The Grace (73) Midnight Sun (73) Mystic Woman (73) The Journey (73) Shadows (73) Web Of Time (75) Mr Moon (75) - Why Islands (78) Give You All My Love (78) Within Each Day (78) Same Old Blues (78) This Precious Time (78) Rob Kopp has made his 1999 Kinks discography 'Down All The days Till 1992' US Chart Stats The Music Industry Machine Mick Avory Pete Quaife - interview - Kast Off Kinks - I Could See It In Your Eyes - Dead End Street Rasa Didzpetris Davies John Dalton John Gosling Jim Rodford Ian Gibbons Andy Pyle Gordon Edwards Clive Davis Bob Henrit
For the record, the Village Of The Damned soundtrack is available on youtube, so I have slotted it in the queue for 1995
Come Dancing With The Kinks: The Best of 1977-1986 was my first Kinks on CD and it's a great intro to the band and the arena years. Like my favorite comps, it inspired me to search out the full LPs from these years and to dig further.
I've read a little about the current autobiography. He goes over stories of his bad behavior in hotel rooms (like doing something nasty in a hotel sink) while in the Kinks and other hijinks(or is it hiKinks?). I think it's a lot like Kink but with more stories from the time period that didn't make it into the first book. As long as it's entertaining (or horrifying), it should be an interesting read.
Is that a movie? As far as the sink episode goes I knew a guy that had an unstable mate board with him and he left a less than golden nugget there also.
I see what you mean. I was 16 at the time, I thought only of the music. To me, the Kinks Arista years are the perfect material for a well curated compilation that checks all the boxes : not too many hits (so they're all in), a bunch of cool singles that should've been hits (they're in), a couple of title tracks to add, two obvious fan (and band) favorites to be kulled from the album tracks (Better Things and Heart of Gold) and one stellar outtake (Long Distance) to accompany the stellar non LP single (Father Christmas) as "exclusives". It was easy to make it perfect… and they did, with superb art work to boot. The original CD (from 1986) still gets it (almost) right: you lose three songs for length reasons, I just wish they'd chosen the live ones. And then, for whatever reason, they messed with it for the 2000 CD reissues, with changes that make very little sense to me. I hold on to my 1986 CD. I'm in Calgary right now. Saw the "Stampede" parade yesterday in the streets, led by "Marshall" Kevin Costner. It was a lot of fun. Tomorrow, off to Montana, for a long road trip on the road of great US writers, films, TV series and western sceneries, most of them old Ray Davies fantasies as well. Will definitely still be around the thread. I wouldn't miss the Think Visual discussion for the world.
It's a movie.... the scene I'm referencing is hilarious.... it's a good movie but that scene is belly hurting funny. Scene setter - There is competition between the bride to be's oldest friend, and newest friend. The oldest friend organizes dinner.... and everything seems fine until....
There was a live version of You Really Got Me on the B-side of the Down All The Days 12" single (I think), which was presumably 1989/1990...is that likely to be the same version that charted at 47 previously? If so, it goes at breakneck speed and received many plays from me in the sixth form common room!
No, the version that charted at #47 in the UK in 1983 was a reissue of the original recording. I believe the version of 'You Really Got Me' that's on the DATD single was recorded in 1987 and is essentially an outtake from the originally conceived double LP version of The Road live album, which would have included more of the oldies conspicuous by their absence from the single LP version that ended up coming out.
I always thought that the cover and title of Come Dancing With the Kinks should have been the cover and title of State of Confusion. I do have it in a set that includes Celluloid Heroes The Kinks Greatest and the DVD of One From the Road. The funny thing is that the labels of the CDs are switched so that the earlier CD has the later CD label and vice versa. Also my copy of the soundtrack of Sunny Afternoon, the jukebox musical, has a label that says that it's a sampler, but it plays the whole album. Speaking of the Sunny Afternoon soundtrack, how about adding it for discussion here? I know that's it not the Kinks, but it's all Kinks songs & I think it would be interesting. Avid Fourtleo, have a great 'n safe time out there in the US West and please keep us informed of your adventures.
and such is the power of the avatar, I envision this being on horseback with a shotgun on either side Have a great adventure mate
The 1986 original release of this Arista comp was notable then for a couple of reasons. It picked up the “greatest” hits in various single edits and/or mixes along side some album cuts. The original CD release here was a truncated version of the 2 LP set omitting a few tracks due to time constraints. The Japanese listing above is that original 1986 CD track list. It was notable as the first LP and CD release of “Long Distance” previously only available on the State Of Confusion cassette. As for the single versions it picked up, the ones of note are the single edit of “Juke Box Music” with the channels reversed for some reason (same mix though),the longer single version of “Better Things” (also same mix), and most notably the US single mix (which is different from the album mix) of “Don’t Forget To Dance” (but no fade here - the 7” had a slight fade). The 2000/2004 Velvel CD/SACD reissue/remaster has a different track list as noted above and took all of the recent 1998/1999 remastered versions of all tracks/mixes so a little different in that regard as well. Nothing unique on the Velvel versions if you have the Velvel remasters of the individual albums. So just like the earlier RCA comp Celluloid Heroes , Velvel (and/or Ray) did not replicate the original releases of these two comp reissues in terms of track list or mixes making them totally redundant if you have all the 1998/1999 remasters. What was unique on the original releases remains unique to those releases.
Quiet Life Great song. It took the place of Rock n' Roll Cities on my modified Think Visual album. I think it fits alright, the album being quite diverse anyway.
