The Kinks - Album by Album (song by song)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. ThereOnceWasANote

    ThereOnceWasANote Forum Resident

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    Phil.

    I'm guessing Robert grew tired of Phil's schtick and aside from Live Aid never worked him again after.
     
  2. ThereOnceWasANote

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    I'll always go for the more proggy Phil-era Genesis but solo Phil was a pop maestro with a decent amount of variety. Played a lot of Phil in my CHR radio days-almost hourly it seemed.

    But this was a strong trio of singles which sounded nothing alike: Another Day In Paradise, Something Happened On The Way To Heaven and I Wish It Would Rain Down...all with great guest appearances.

    It's a shame about Phil.
     
  3. Paul Mazz

    Paul Mazz Senior Member

    Welcome to Sleazy Town

    I'm joining a minority in not being a really big fan of this one. It does add some variety to the album. I don't dislike it, and the Kinks do a decent job with this style of song, but it's not a style I think of when I think of the Kinks, if that makes sense, so I wouldn't seek it out as a stand alone track. Another of my main complaints, may be unique to me, and that is that I wish the town wasn't only called Sleazy Town. I can imagine the reasons for not using a real city name, but I think I would have preferred the name of a real place. I don't like spit and polished places in the real world, but when I think of sleazy, the first thought that comes to mind, for me, is Times Square in NY in the early and mid eighties when it was full of nothing but porn theaters, peep shows, pimps, prostitutes pickpockets, drug dealers, and guys playing three card monte on the street. I like a city that's "cool, keen, and alive," but I'll take the Disney version of Times Square over what it used to be like back then any day. On the other hand, one of my favorite places is New Orleans, which seems like it manages to be in a perpetual state of decay without actually disintegrating.
     
  4. Brian x

    Brian x the beautiful ones are not yet born

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    Since we're doing a Genesis thing, will just note that despite much cajoling from many friends and multiple close listens, Genesis doesn't do much for me - except Trick of the Tail. I absolutely love that LP and listen to it often. Which is weird because though I'm meh on Gabriel Genesis and Gabriel solo, I'm positively annoyed by Phil solo (except one or two tracks) and non-TotT Phil Genesis (except Turn it on Again).
     
  5. Zeki

    Zeki Forum Resident

    That’s why I’m not admitting I watched it. Mums the word! (I swear it was within the 8 second rule timeframe).
     
  6. Zeki

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    I’m sorely tempted to post Heep’s rock’n’roll medley, just to show how it’s done properly…but will refrain (after cheerfully watching it myself). We should be talking sleazy blues, I think. Or, as @donstemple pointed out, ‘Demolition.’
     
  7. markelis

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    I am engaged but we are running out of kinks albums, I suspect the thread will run its course before we get around to tying the knot.
     
  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Get on it mate, I expect the ceremony to be just as we're finishing off Americana pt2 :)

    But seriously congratulations..





    And seriously, get on it, I'll even get my JoP and we can do it on the thread...
    :)
     
  9. Brian Kelly

    Brian Kelly 1964-73 rock's best decade

    Sleazy Town
    I will give this song credit for sounding totally different for a Kinks song. Unfortunately it is also kind of a boring song. Call this a good effort, but a miss for me.
     
  10. markelis

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    My lady is up for anything from a big wedding (she has a REALLY big family), to eloping to Hawaii, to walking down the street to town hall without further ado. I am letting her choose, its her first time so whatever she wants.

    I am with you though, I just want to get it done. She wants to procreate, and at my age, I say the sooner the better!

    Here is a Sunday discussion that has nothing to do with the Kinks: I asked my daughter to be my best man. I am not sure I have ever heard of anyone doing that before. Thoughts? (I am really just putting this out there because I suspect that Avid All Down the Line will have a very punny field day with it somehow!)
     
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  11. Steve62

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    Demolition! That’s the song I was struggling to remember last night. Repetition - Demolition.
    Thanks!
     
  12. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Obviously I'm joking about the thread.... kinda, we could Skype it.... in era favoured Kinks outfits.... sorry just being a d!ck ;)

    With weddings it seems you already know the rules, you're essentially just a handbag in the entourage that is the ladies day.... give the people what they want indeed.... and it always pays to let her follow her heart on it, that way there are no what ifs down the track....

    As far as your daughter being your best person goes.... it is an unusual but beautiful thing.
    We're here in trials and turmoil, and solidifying family relationships, where possible, is more important than some tradition that most folks have forgotten why we even follow.

    So let your wife drive the bus, but render assistance when needed/required, and let your daughter be by your side as your best mate for the day, as it should help future bonds for everyone.
     
  13. Steve62

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    We aren’t 20th Century Men anymore. Your idea sounds thoroughly contemporary. You might need to sensitise guests from the older generation though - you don’t want any heart attacks or apoplectic fits at a wedding
    Edit: I’m hoping to do one of those ‘reaffirm wedding vows’ things with my wife (a Clayton’s wedding?) and we might borrow your ‘best man’ idea with our daughter, who I’m sure would be chuffed (stoked, rapt, thrilled).
     
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  14. CheshireCat

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    Welcome To Sleazy Town
    Clearly a band favourite, remaining in the setlist until the next decade, and it brings some variety to the album, but its never been a favourite of mine. I certainly wouldn't seek it out, and in concert, the band drags it out interminably, so that Ray can do another jacket change...
     
  15. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    Great try and I don't think many like the Rock me/Cloud mash up.
    You would think Out Of Control was ripe for the Papa but never heard of them having the temptation.
    The other two are fair guesses, I don't think so but will need to eliminate though you have missed an official release from 1965.
     
  16. All Down The Line

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    I guess the ring will have to wait as you buy up the rest of the Kinks Katalogue Kwickly!
     
  17. All Down The Line

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    His betrothed might find that a bit too Kinky!
     
  18. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    In this day and age how many of us actually have a best man or someone we could call that in our lives?
    It might as well be a best woman as I've heard some are purdy good to pin by your side!
    But now you've set the cat amongst the pigeons with a best daughter and I am all for it providing she isn't a minor and is not pinched out of daycare to attend a Hawaiian locale's lu'au!
     
  19. markelis

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    Far from a minor at 32! (…but as I’m sure most of you on this thread know, they never stop being your baby).
     
  20. DISKOJOE

    DISKOJOE Boredom That You Can Afford!

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    Isn’t one Stones medley from the 1965 EP Got Live If You Want It and the other from the 1977 album Love You Live?
     
  21. All Down The Line

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    Absolutely correct as early on they did a medley of Everybody Needs Somebody To Love/Pain In My Heart.
    Any further "unofficially released" medley guesses?
     
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  22. All Down The Line

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    I've come up with 6 Stones Live Medley's including the 2 official ones our capable Avids revealed upthread!

    Europe 1967- 1. Goin' Home/Satisfaction &
    2. Yesterday's Papers/ Get Off Of My Cloud

    USA 1969- I'm Free/Under My Thumb

    USA 1972- Uptight Outta Sight/Satisfaction
    (The Stones w/Stevie Wonder & his band.)

    N.b. The best by far of the 6 is the one above from 1972.
     
  23. TeddyB

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    Sleazy Town sounds a bit like it could have been from Preservation. The title always put me off. I actually don’t mind Ray’s hipster vocal affectation that he would use late solo in Art School Girls. If I think of the title in scare quotes, or think of it as theatrical, I can get aboard. As a stand-alone song, I bump against the ugly title when I’m being told things were better then. Like, I get the idea that 42nd Street was way cooler in the seventies. akin to what Ray is advocating here, but I don’t get how using a pejorative like Sleazy Town makes it attractive, unless the tone is over the top.
     
  24. TeddyB

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    Yeah,, that ‘75 Stones medley wasn’t great.

    On the Stones’ Live at the El Mocambo, Jagger throws in a bit of 54-46 (Was My Number) by Toots and the Maytals at the end of their reggafied version of Bo Diddley’s Crackin’ Up but it isn’t really a medley.

    BTW, I prefer the Under My Thumb/I’m Free from 1969 to the Satisfaction/Upright from 1972, but I wouldn’t want to have to make the case on the merits.
     
  25. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    The Video Shop.

    stereo mix, recorded Jan 1986 at Konk Studios, Hornsey, London

    The local factory's been pulled down
    By an overseas corporation
    Now all of my brothers are looking around
    For alternative occupation

    I was sitting by the telly with my brother, Kenny
    When suddenly the penny dropped
    While all of my brothers are sitting at home
    I've got a bank loan and I've opened up my very own
    Video shop
    Video shop

    At the video shop
    I can fly, fly you away

    Comedy and tragedy are all sitting on my shelf
    And if you've got a fantasy
    For a small rental fee
    You can set yourself free
    At my video shop
    At my video shop
    At the video shop

    I can fly, fly you away
    At the video shop
    Let me fly, fly you away
    From all of the depression in you head
    Caused by all the living in the red

    I've got a bootleg version of Citizen Kane
    A second hand copy of Psycho
    I've taped them off the telly so you shouldn't complain
    And there's no guarantee you'll get your money back again
    From my video shop
    My video shop

    If you want to escape, I can rent you a tape
    To relieve your situation
    If you feel a bit low, I got a good peep show
    'Cos everybody knows almost anything goes
    At my video shop
    At my video shop

    One fifty a day and I'll fly, fly you away
    It's nothing to pay to fly far, far away
    I can help you through that lonely night
    I've got Technicolour, black and white
    I can guide you through those empty days
    Make you smile and take your blues away

    O let me fly you away
    At my video shop
    Fly, fly you away

    Another factory's been knocked down
    But nobody ever complains
    And all of my brothers are customers now
    We all play video games
    I can see it in the eyes of all the lonely wives
    If they're bored and they feel like a change
    I do sales, rentals, even a swop
    And if you feel like a change, well it can all be arranged
    At my video shop
    At my video shop
    At my video shop

    At my video shop
    Let me fly, fly you away

    And everyone who walks in through that door
    Has got something that they're looking for
    At my video shop
    At my video shop
    At the video shop
    I can fly, fly you away

    At the video shop
    Let me fly, fly you away
    Oh, at the video shop

    Oh, at the video shop
    Oh, at the video shop

    Written by: Ray Davies
    Published by: Davray Music Ltd.

    This is a pretty cool song, and it kind of sounds to me like the band is sort of tipping the hat back at Madness. It has that sort of Ska thing going on, and also the lighthearted feel of early Madness.

    We open up with a sort of reference to Demolition, and the general idea Ray had presented a few times about the old world England being torn down and replaced and some folks that were out of work, and ended up being able to get a business loan to set up a video shop, which was certainly a boom industry in the early eighties ... for example Blockbuster was founded in 1985 and was a going concern up to 2014.

    Then the lyrics have a sort of unusual look at the idea of the Video Shop....
    We have the very straightforward idea that people went to the Video Shop to get a tape to watch a movie to escape for an hour or two into another place. It gets presented as a sort of public service to help people cope with depression and debt and all these other things by watching a movie for a while, at a very reasonable price.
    We get a tongue in cheek look at the videos being taped off the tv, and bootlegs and all this other stuff.

    It is almost like Ray is looking at the Video Shop as a lighthearted distraction to the whole of society falling to pieces.

    Musically we get the return of horns as a rhythmic and melodic device to dress the song up.
    We have the bridge come in with a nice change, and it presents the idea that the Video Shop is like a personal therapy for its customers.

    There probably isn't really that much going on in this song, it is fairly simple in its structure and delivery, but I think that suits what the song is going for.
    I think we also get the return of the National Steel guitar when the song breaks down, and we get that sort of banjo-esque tone of that guitar come in towards the end.

    Anyway, it probably isn't going to be in the Kinks greatest ever songs, but I like it, even though initially I was a little nonplussed by it, it grew on me with its subtle persuasions and bouncy feel and lighthearted delivery. So not the greatest Kinks track, but a track I enjoy anyhow :)

     

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