The Kinks - Album by Album (song by song)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. CheshireCat

    CheshireCat Forum Resident

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    Back In The Front Room
    Another studio creation I presume. A great way of driving the story along. A dialogue in song; a sonalogue perhaps. I like the variety of Ray's different voices. Quite the performance! Very enjoyable.
     
  2. stewedandkeefed

    stewedandkeefed Came Ashore In The Dead Of The Night

    "Back To The Front Room"
    I enjoy this song. It is the story of the Kinks. I agree with @Fortuleo that it has more than a little "Subterranean Homesick Blues" in it. Plus this is the story of many bands. When you run out of songs to cover, you start making them up yourselves. I really like the understand/jam/hands rhyme Ray uses early in the song. In fact, many of the rhymes are quite clever. And it is great that Ray's father was on board with the band and is represented in this song declaring Dave bloody marvelous and telling them to forget the neighbours. This song is a lot of fun.
     
  3. Rockford & Roll

    Rockford & Roll Forum Resident

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    Ah yes, if there is a fire, a few beverages and some stories to tell, I'm in. Most of my good ones are from the 80s, when we we were hitting our teenage strides. It's cool to think of my fellow Avids all gathered around for story time. We'd get some great ones and learn a little as we go.
     
  4. Rockford & Roll

    Rockford & Roll Forum Resident

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    Back To The Front Room - What a great song. It really amazing how he tapped into the Dylan/Townes thing as @Fortuleo wisely points out. I can imagine Todd Snider singing this one.
     
  5. Rockford & Roll

    Rockford & Roll Forum Resident

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    She is wise beyond my years! And sometimes, my ears. I'm a very lucky guy.
     
  6. Zeki

    Zeki Forum Resident

    ‘Back In The Front Room’: As already pointed out, Dave gets his accolades here (and not in a manner that’s dripping with sarcasm…which is a relief). The quick guitar riff is a perfect accent.

    I listened for the Flash moment but, unfortunately, didn’t catch that.

    As Ray tells his stories I found myself thinking of Long John Baldry during this one. (‘Don’t Try To Lay No Boogie Woogie on the King Of Rock and Roll’).

    Ray pushes the narrative along.

    Story telling: I’ve mentioned before how I’ve sought out stories from those foreigners who, for whatever reason, went to Japan after the war. I’m sure there’s a wealth of material out there…but it’s like pulling teeth to get at it. Anyway, several days ago, completely out of the blue, my childhood friend sent me scanned copies of handwritten, divided by categories (Fire Department; Schools; Culture Confusion, etc), memories of Japan written up by her mother in the early 90s. Beginning with 1955. So I’m happy as can be. (And what I’m astounded by is that my friend hadn’t even read the material! Just sent it on to me unread. So I’ve been transcribing it and sending it back!) Storytelling. Wonderful.
     
  7. donstemple

    donstemple Member of the Club

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    Back in the Front Room

    First of all, I like the juxtaposition of “back” and “front” in the title here. What a neat track. Really unlike any style the Kinks had done, with this country (?)/folk/acoustic narrative song. I do hear a bit of the verse melody of Hatred (a Duet) in some sections here. Perhaps not a coincidence as this is really a nod to Dave’s talent here. Ray’s delivery of “…Exactly” is bloody brilliant. Almost a nod to perhaps being a bit sarcastic here, as Dave’s actual playing is unique and… what’s the word… individual.

    Listening several times is really required here, to get all the voices, little inflections, the big inflections, the hooks, the rhymes.

    I love this, but probably because we are deep fans. Not sure a casual fan would find the genius in this. But I am glad to be part of this group that can.
     
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  8. Zeki

    Zeki Forum Resident

    I do disagree with you here. One doesn’t need to be a Kinks fan, or a Ray Davies fan, to enjoy a good story. There are people who don’t, who want to get straight to the end (you got on the bus and then got off the bus, right? I don’t need to hear about the journey?—type of people) but anyone who takes delight in hearing a story unfold…and voices and exaggerated gestures are all a part of that yarn spinning…will enjoy Ray’s stories. (Whether it’s genius or not is, I think, a separate issue. Personally, I don’t see it as genius, just a good story, cleverly set to music.)
     
  9. DISKOJOE

    DISKOJOE Boredom That You Can Afford!

    Location:
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    "Back In The Front Room": A nicely told story by Ray about the origins of the Kinks w/a suitable background. It could be the story about any rock band that has ever gotten together in the past 70 odd years. It's great for Ray to admit that Dave was a budding guitar genius. Also, he seems to realize that maybe being in a rock and roll band would be a great alternative to express himself artistically, as well as getting some art school babes :laugh:

    Here's another song about the origins of a band that this reminds me of:

     
  10. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I'd have to recommend the Joe's Garage album.. A marvelous, musical, montage of madness
     
  11. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    So you're not in the middle of the Streett on this one and can't hang around?
     
  12. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    As I'm at loose end just now (and I don't get many of those these these day: see 2 year old daughter) I thought I'd post a few TV appearances that haven't been noted yet in advance of free form Sunday which I may be too busy on to post much.

    This is a few years out of timeline, but better late than never, here is the bulk of Ray's appearance on Chris Evans (not the Avengers supremo but the UK ubiquitous-to-the-point-of-annoyance-in -the-90s TV/radio presenter and media mogul) light entertainment show Don't Forget Your Toothbrush from March 1994, during which he deigns to take part in a semi-humiliating 'quiz off ' against glamourous Kinks superfan Tracy Noonan:

    intro:

     
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  13. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    The Quiz-off itself (Note Ray gets the name of the Kinks original moniker right but defers to the incorrect official answer of 'The Ravens')

     
  14. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

    Location:
    Glasgow
    Ray also played YRGM yet again with the house band inc. Jools Holland:


     
  15. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

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    Glasgow
    As well as the comparatively rarely aired 'Dead End Street' (interesting that this arrangement is closer to the original rather than the Clash-i-fied version The Kinks were playing in concert contemporarily).. things get a bit scat jazz at the end too..

     
  16. Zeki

    Zeki Forum Resident

    So funny. I gather the super fan out scored Ray! (And went away with some great looking shoes).
     
  17. Zeki

    Zeki Forum Resident

    “It was ‘93 I broke my toe.” :D
     
  18. ajsmith

    ajsmith Senior Member

    Location:
    Glasgow
    From the correct timeframe (ie April 1998) here's Rays appearance as a pundit on Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect. Watching this strikes me with a kind of an interesting disconnect as I think of these kinds of shows (as well as Maher himself who's still very much around) as being more of a contemporary phenomenon with everything these days so politically polarised and contentiously discussed, so it's odd to see ol' 20th Century Man Ray (billed as a 'Rock Legend': Maher must surely be a fan) in the swim of something like this. The topics du jour that evening were Viagra, (how very late 90s) a racist 90 year old, and poverty tourism:

     
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  19. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Oct 1963 - Nov 1966
    Starstruck promo video/ Days video/ Sunny Afternoon TOTP
    Apr 1967 - Feb 1970
    Nov 1970 - Jun 1976
    Feb 1977 - Dec 1983
    Artificial Light or. mix
    Life Goes On OGWT
    Morphing docu of Hotelroom sessions + interview Ray + live KinKs in Vienna 1978.
    One For The Road - the lost videos
    1981 A Woman In Love (chorus girls)
    Oh Tokyo live in 1982 - lyrics
    Jan 1984 - Dec 1993

    The Early Nineties Tours

    Oct 1994 To The Bone
    All Day And All Of The Night - tv appearance
    Apeman - 2020 remix
    Tired Of Waiting For You
    See My Friends
    Death Of A Clown
    Waterloo Sunset - Late Show 94
    Muswell Hillbilly
    Better Things
    Don't Forget To Dance
    Autumn Almanac
    Sunny Afternoon - Duo 1993
    Dedicated Follower Of Fashion
    You Really Got Me

    Ray TV jingle - Sitting In The Stands

    Oct 1994 Waterloo Sunset 94 EP
    Elevator Man
    On The Outside

    Oct 1994 The Emma Freud Show
    Waterloo Sunset

    I'm Not Like Everybody Else
    Till The End Of The Day - full
    You Really Got Me
    All Day And All Of The Night

    Oct 1994 The Kelly Show

    1994 Kompilations

    94 Don't Forget Your Toothbrush

    Quiz
    YRGM
    Dead End Street

    Live At Konk video
    You Really Got Me tv performance - TOTP
    Till The End Of The Day BBC 94
    Kinks live TOTP 1994
    Dec 94 Stuttgart

    1995 Dave and John Carpenter - In The Mouth Of Madness

    1995 Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Concert
    All Day And All Of The Night alt version

    April 1995 Village Of The Damned (Whole Album)

    1995 Kompilations

    Sept 1995 Ray Davies - XRay


    Oct 95 Ray Storyteller live New York

    1996 Ray VH1 Storytellers

    Ray Storytellers live 1996

    1996 Kompilations

    Jun 96 Kinks Last Koncert
    The Concert

    Mar 1997 To The Bone Re-calibrated
    Do It Again
    Celluloid Heroes
    Picture Book
    Village Green Preservation Society
    Do You Remember Walter
    Set Me Free
    Lola
    Come Dancing
    I'm Not Like Everybody Else
    Till The End Of The Day
    Give The People What They Want
    State Of Confusion
    Dead End Street
    Gallon Of Gas
    Days
    Animal - 95 (Storyteller)
    To The Bone - video - 96 Jools - 95 White Room - Demo - TV
    The Shirt
    My Diary
    Rock And Roll Fantasy live (79?)

    1997 Ray Storytellers Interview

    1997 Ray Irish Interview

    1997 Kathy Dennis - Am I The Kind Of Girl
    The Date

    Consolation
    Sunny Afternoon
    Waterloo Sunset

    1997 Kompilations - Singles/Waterloo Sunset extra info

    1997 Dave Davies - Kink

    1998 - Waterloo Sunset : Stories (Ray Book)

    The Kinks Thread Family - Kinks Kareer Konklusions

    1998 Kompilations
    - You're Lookin Fine (live)

    98 Ray and Bill Maher

    1998 Ray Davies - The Storyteller
    Storyteller - Full Version
    Intro/Victoria
    My Name/20th Century Man
    London Song - video guide
    My Big Sister/That Ol' Black Magic/ Tired Of Waiting For You
    Set Me Free (instr)/ Dad and The Green Amp/Set Me Free
    The Front Room/See My Friends/Autumn Almanac
    Hunchback/Xray
    Art School/ Art School Babe - video
    Back In The Front Room

    August 23 2000 Ray Davies and Friends - Jane Street Theatre NY

    2001 Dave Davies Fragile
    Violet Dreams

    No More Mysteries
    Wait
    Bright Lights
    Give Something Back
    Hope
    Long Lonely Road
    Open Up Your Heart
    Lost In Your Arms
    Astral Nightmare
    I'm Sorry

    Dave Creeping Jean live 2004

    2005 Thanksgiving Day Ray live on Conan Obrien

    2006 Ray gets top honour at BMI awards

    2006 Dave - Too Much On My Mind

    2010 Come Dancing play

    Oct 2018 Dave Davies - Decade - interview
    If You Are Leaving (71)
    Cradle To The Grace (73)
    Midnight Sun (73)
    Mystic Woman (73)
    The Journey (73)
    Shadows (73)
    Web Of Time (75)
    Mr Moon (75) - Why
    Islands (78)
    Give You All My Love (78)
    Within Each Day (78)
    Same Old Blues (78)
    This Precious Time (78)

    2019 Kast Off Kinks with Ray

    2022 Muswell/ Showbiz box
    2022 Celluloid Heroes
    Acute Schizophrenia Paranoia Blues
    Travelling Montage
    Travelling With My Band - I'm Going Home - You Can't Stop The Music
    2022 remixes pt 1 - part 2 - part 3

    Creem articles - Mar 70
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    - Aug 78
    - Oct 78
    - Jan 81
    - May 85
    - Apr 85
    - Apr 87
    - May 87
    - Jun 87
    - Jun 88

    Rare Silent Video

    Rob Kopp has made his 1999 Kinks discography 'Down All The days Till 1992'

    US Chart Stats
    The Music Industry Machine

    Album flow chart

    Album poll graph

    Mick Avory
    Pete Quaife - interview - Kast Off Kinks - I Could See It In Your Eyes - Dead End Street
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    John Gosling
    Jim Rodford
    Ian Gibbons
    Andy Pyle
    Gordon Edwards
    Clive Davis
    Bob Henrit

    Mark Haley - info
    Jakko Jaksyk
     
  20. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    As I slowly come out of my mental haze, I'll probably be back in the trenches here.... Been a weird few days.

    I had to go to the shops yesterday, and I was staring at the shelves that were dancing around and making all sorts of groovy patterns, and doing weird things, until I realised I probably looked like a mental case just staring blankly into the air lol...

    I have probably missed most of what has been said since Wednesday, my apologies. I liked stuff, so I could keep track of where on earth I was, but even if I'd read it, it wouldn't have settled in ...

    Anyway, I think I'm sliding back into some kind of functional reality now, so onward and upward :)
     
  21. palisantrancho

    palisantrancho Forum Resident

    "Back in the Front Room"

    Being from the Chicago area, we would pronounce this "Back in the frunchroom". I wish I could agree with all the praise being given to this song, but it looks like I may be the lone man out. I usually like Ray's character voices, but these lyrics and delivery are not working for me. My girlfriend commented that it sounded like a hokey hoedown. I guess it's somewhat amusing, but I can't say that I enjoy it.
     
  22. CheshireCat

    CheshireCat Forum Resident

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    Pete Mathison
    Ray's guitarist over this period seems to have had a minor musical career previously. According to 'Discogs': Pete Mathison was in 'Red Beans And Rice', a "British R&B band active in the Mod Revival period in the early 1980s, known for a cover of Willie Mitchell's "That Driving Beat". They seem to have released a couple of singles in 1980-1, and a self-titled LP in 1983. Pete Mathison

    Another source suggest that Mathison isn't on the 1980 single. CHISWICK RECORDS: Red Beans & Rice
     
  23. Michael Streett

    Michael Streett Senior Member

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    Florence, SC
    Not yet. For these RSD releases I only have one local option in the city I live in and they did not have it (nor the Fractured Mindz reissue) even though I asked the guy who procures these releases to request these. Either they got one or the other in and sold them (doubtful) or they never bothered to get them (likely - he’s burned me before). He wasn’t in the store today for me to confront. (This is actually not a real record store. It’s a 5 ft x 5 ft section of an indoor antiques and collectibles shop for local sellers. Furniture, wall pictures, knick knacks, junk, etc. They may have around 500 new and used records max - no CDs.)

    Anyway I called another (real) store in another city about 45 minutes away. He didn’t have it either, but he ended up calling me back saying his distributor had 4 copies of the single and he could have it by the end of the week. I said that’s fine, so I’ll pick this up next weekend.

    I could have ordered online today from somewhere out of state but I’d rather support the local retailers, especially when it comes to these special releases, but it’s got to be a two-way streett, right? :)

    Doesn’t look like the track is online yet for listening. If it does not show up online over the next few weeks, I’ll upload and send to Mark in advance for scheduling. We know it was written in the 1990s (with Goffin), but earlier today I found some info online that indicates it’s a 1990s era Dave-only demo that was found a couple of years ago. It was supposed to be released digitally at that time, but did not appear until now on this vinyl.
     
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  24. StefanWq

    StefanWq Forum Resident

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    Back in the Front Room

    This is a track I often seek out as a stand-alone song. It has such great upbeat energy combined with the very vivid storytelling dialogue-ish lyrics, capturing the buzz of the fledgling group making rapid progress and starting to see exciting possibilities ahead. I like how Ray sings that Dave played guitar like he talked and then imitates that guitar playing followed by the simple word "Exactly". It's a fast-paced track which takes a lot of twists and turns and just from the sound of this song it is clear that this early period of Ray, Dave and Pete playing together is a very happy memory for Ray. I guess many young bands can relate to neighbours and even police complaining about their loudness. I like how Davies Sr stuck up for his sons and their friend and Ray's imitation of him telling them, "Keep playing boys!" To me, this track is one of the big highlights on The Storyteller.
     
  25. Michael Streett

    Michael Streett Senior Member

    Location:
    Florence, SC
    In my formative teen years “keep playing, boy, keep playing” is decidedly NOT what my dad told me. I was not allowed to play my drums if he were home. Luckily he excused himself from the house from early morning until early dusk even after retiring. So I usually had a couple of hours every day after school to play. My Mom was OK with it, buying me my first kit and offering encouragement and support. She tolerated it if she was home. Neighbors never complained or called the cops even though I did this every single day for years and years.

    What I did was play along to albums, in those years it was cassettes. I’d put a tape in, turn the volume all the way up so I could hear it over my drums, hit play, and get on with playing the whole album. In hindsight I think this was actually a good way of learning. I was in the band in school learning the formal and technical aspects, but the full kit side was learned by doing this play along with the album routine at home. I started with The Beatles albums at age 11 and 12 around 1979/1980 and went from there.

    My drums were set up in my bedroom at an angle to where I could glance out the window to see if my Dad was getting home at which point I stopped and turned the music off. Of course, several times I was so into it I missed his arrival until he was standing in my doorway with an irritated scowl on his face. I couldn’t turn it off fast enough!
    I recall one time in particular. I remember the song and I remember where in the song it was. It was “Machine Messiah” by Yes from the 1980 album Drama (the whole album is a drummer’s delight. Some of Alan White’s best work ever. Chris Squire is on fire on bass too). It was in the middle section where the band returns to the heavy bombastic intro again before moving into an acoustic section where the drums drop out for a bit. I knew that break was coming up so I felt I could wait and do my window check once that spot arrived. So I let fly Crash, Bash, Wallop, Pummel, just getting into it big time. There’s a Steve Howe lead guitar part here where he hits a particularly nasty, snarly lead and it was at this exact spot in the song when I spotted my Dad in the doorway with the most incensed expression I’d ever seen in my life. I fell off the drum throne and nearly broke my arm trying to get to my stereo fast enough. Turn that rubbish off indeed! I made sure I never missed his car again and I never did after that! I’m laughing my a** off remembering this today!

    One inadvertent consequence of not being able to play drums when he was around was it prompted me to get an acoustic guitar which I could play quietly enough when he was there and it would not disturb him. Later bought a cheap keyboard for the same reason. At that age in those years, I had to have an outlet for all this musical pursuit somehow each day. So I may not have bothered learning how to play other instruments had I been allowed to drum at will.
     
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