The Kinks - Album by Album (song by song)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

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    This is a song that cannot be praised too highly, and it's influence can probably not be overstated. Hearing this in 1964 must have been like hearing music from another planet. I mean, it really stands out from other hits of 1964.
     
  2. FJFP

    FJFP Host for the 'Mixology' Mix Differences Podcast

    At this point, we can't hold anything back. This is one of the most influential and iconic records of all time, and for good reason. The 45 should be a mandatory addition to everyone's collection (with a great B-Side we'll get to tomorrow I'm assuming), and it's such a huge step up it's unbelievable.

    I will say that I'd love to hear that early "ballad" version that's been discussed, but sadly, I assume it has been lost to time. Oh, to be a fly on the wall...

    @croquetlawns comment about this in the context of 1964 is also important. Those other beat and pop 45s in the UK have nothing on this. We're talking Can't Buy Me Love, Here I Go Again, House of the Rising Sun, Glad All Over, It's All Over Now... all amazing 45s, but slap this on, and I'm sure people either went crazy, or just stood there with their jaws dropped.

    In short, fantastic.
     
  3. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    It was interesting reading Ray's thoughts about how everything went down

    Apparently the band weren't very highly regarded, and this song created a bit of a stir, and some jealousy among the scene.... having been in the band scene, that really doesn't surprise me at all... it can be a bit catty
     
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  4. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Yea, I thought You Really Got Me needed it's own space.

    Yea, I looked and looked, but couldn't find anything.
     
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  5. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    I have mixed feelings about "You Really Got Me".

    ON the one hand there is no denying its importance -- not only for the Kinks, as the song instantly forged their own sound that stood out among the other British bands fo the era --but for rock music itself.

    At the same time, for me, it is not as representative of their overall sound as other songs and I think that it tends to overshadow much of their career, and many songs that I like better -- mainly because it was such a monster hit in the States. It seems to me when anyone unfairly dismisses the Kinks, they've only heard a handful of their hits, and this one of the ones they've inevitably heard.

    So I have this sort of resentment for the track and it takes me a bit of will to just listen without all that baggage and appreciate it. Of course when I do it's a brilliant 5/5 song -- even among Ray's 1964 originals which are generally great, it stands out as one of the great ones.
     
  6. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I completely understand this perspective.

    When I learned about the whole US situation, it really did change the perspective of this song.
    Also it doesn't really point to where the band were going. It is a lightening in a bottle moment. Wonderful, necessary, but not defining of who the band end up being
     
  7. ARL

    ARL Forum Resident

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    There's not much you can say about "You Really Got Me" that hasn't been said before - it's a stone cold classic and I can't imagine what it must have been like to hear this in 1964. The start of the verse sounds menacing, then it's cranked up a notch with a key change, then it's cranked up another notch with another key change. Still sounds great no matter how many times you hear it. Personally I think they perfected the approach with the next single by the addition of the third chord into the riff, but "You Really Got Me" is the original and deserves all the plaudits.
     
  8. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    I strongly suspect that that kind of jealousy and
    a feeling of ‘How dare these upstarts from nowhere get a No.1 with an original song in the blues idiom’ amongst the nascent guitar heroes of London that contributed to the Jimmy Page rumours being put about.
     
  9. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    The 1964 Beat Room clip (semi famed for the dancing chef visible mid way through) which is the earliest surviving footage of the Kinks playing the song is also worth posting, although just now the only version I could find on YouTube has subtitles in a Slavic language.. possibly Russian (?)

     
  10. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense. I know Page was a session muso, but I often wondered why folks thought Dave never played this, and how the Page myth came about... it makes perfect sense in that context.... like I say, lots of cattyness among muso's....

    It's funny actually, but one of my mates gave me the Page story back in the eighties, and I knew no better at the time, so I just said "that's probably why I prefer the live version so much more" :) it certainly knocked that conversation on the head :)
     
  11. Zack

    Zack Forum Resident

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    Fun fact: Ray came up with the riff while doing variations on "Tequila" by the Champs at the piano.
     
  12. Wildest cat from montana

    Wildest cat from montana Humble Reader

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    ' You Really Got Me ' is the best of the early British Invasion songs.
    I didn't realize it only charted as high as #7 in the American charts. It deserved better.
     
  13. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I thought the same... then I thought, well being so different, it is lucky it charted at all.
     
  14. Wildest cat from montana

    Wildest cat from montana Humble Reader

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    I know that ' Ringo ' by Lorne Greene was out around the same time and that got to #1 but I cannot help but think that it did so because many thought it was a homage to The Beatles drummer rather than a tale of an outlaw.
     
  15. Martyj

    Martyj Who dares to wake me from my slumber? -- Mr. Flash

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    Alight, I just discovered this forum and had to sign up to be part of the Kinks discussion. I'll have to scroll back through these 9 pages (so far) to see what I've missed already. It's nice, though, to be starting on the day you discuss YRGM, which--earlier releases aside--is what started it all. It was the first Kinks record I owned when as a teenage Beatles fan I bought a 2 disc compilation of "The Best of the British Invasion" (I think it came out around 1976?) because it was the first time I had a chance to own The Beatles "My Bonnie," and I came to discover YRGM was my favorite track. Who are these Kinks guys? I had never heard of them.

    There's probably not much more to add to what others have stated, other than I am certain there is a special room in Hell--with extra sharp pitchforks--for people who think YRGM is a Van Halen song.
     
  16. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    I thought it was Top 5 ať least. In fact though, it had endured while bigger hits from the era have long since been forgotten.
     
  17. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    Ironically, just as The Kinks (well their management really) had attempted to steal The Beatles glory with their version of ‘Long Tall Sally’ so they too in turn were the intended victims of an attempt to get the US hit with ‘You Really Got Me’ before them with this rush release from a group called The Moments fronted by none other than a pre fame Steve Marriot! Fortunately as the Kinks Kash-in failed, so too did this attempt to steal their own thunder, although that said there is a bit more historical curiosity in hearing Marriot’s powerhouse vocals get to grips with this atypical (for him) material than there is in hearing Ray doing ‘LTS’ .

     
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  18. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    Late to the thread and catching up!

    Long Tall Sally
    There's a nice sleazy feel to the way The Kinks do this one.
    2.5/5

    You Still Want Me
    You can already that Kinks touch as Ray's vocals come in. Very Beatles-like of course.
    2/5

    I'm A Hog For You Baby
    A bit of a clunky cover but it's fun. Nice little guitar solo.
    2/5

    You Do Something To Me and I Believe You
    Too much in the shadow of the Fabs and not good.
    1/5

    You Really Got Me
    Earth shifts on axis as one of the greatest songs of all time rocks the planet
    5/5
     
  19. FJFP

    FJFP Host for the 'Mixology' Mix Differences Podcast

    Wow, with that beat taken down to just the riff, it really plods along! I'm not shocked this version flopped, despite not being *that* far removed from the original.
     
  20. croquetlawns

    croquetlawns Forum Resident

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    That's a surprise! I've heard other Moments tracks (or just one track?) on Small Faces/Marriott comps, but I've never heard this.
     
  21. Wildest cat from montana

    Wildest cat from montana Humble Reader

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    Mott The Hoople does an admirable instrumental version of ' You Really Got Me ' on their debut album.
    Would have liked to hear Ian Hunter tackle the vocal though.
     
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  22. sharedon

    sharedon Forum Zonophone

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    Let's not forget Arthur Greenslade, who plays piano on YRGM!
     
  23. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Cheers mate. I had no idea who was playing the piano
     
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  24. Endicott

    Endicott Forum Resident

    BOOM! On an 0-2 count, the Kinks hit it out of the park!

    I don't have any profound insights that haven't been already offered by others. All I can add is that I first heard this song through Van Halen in the late seventies, and not being much of a liner-notes reader in those days, I thought it was theirs. I liked the song -- I actually thought it was the strongest cut on their fine debut album -- but I didn't become familiar with the Kinks' original until the local top-40 pop station in San Juan played it as part of an in-house oldies show. And I was blown away -- despite the far more primitive instrumentation and production, this record packed every bit as much of a punch as Van Halen's version. And the rhythm track pounded relentlessly like a supercharged engine. I figured it was time to get to know these Kinks guys a little better.

    If your grocery-store cashier has heard one Kinks song in her life, it's either this one or "Lola". (Or "Waterloo Sunset" if she's in the UK.) This is an iconic Kinks record, an iconic rock record, and a triumph for each of the band members. The history of popular music develops quite differently without this record.

    And they were just getting started...
     
  25. Fischman

    Fischman RockMonster, ClassicalMaster, and JazzMeister

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    You Really Got Me

    Nothing to add.... just glad to see this one getting its due.
     

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