The Kinks - Lola vs Powerman & The Moneygoround 50th anniversary... predictions, suggestions, etc.

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by slop101, Jan 3, 2020.

  1. slop101

    slop101 Guitar Geek Thread Starter

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    Well, we're finally at this album's 50th anniversary, and I hope they're working on something, as this is the only truly classic, rock album I can think of that doesn't have a readily available vinyl release.

    I know there's a ton of material out there that they could do a box set that would put Arthur's to shame.
    Honestly though, I just want a really well-mastered AAA vinyl re-issue.

    Odds of a proper release this year? And if so, what would the release contain?
     
  2. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    Andrew Sandoval pretty much confirmed a box is coming in 2020 in a couple of interviews he did last year.

    I’ve got to admit, at this stage I’m not that excited about a Lola vs P etc box in the same way I was about an Arthur one.. I’m not sure where the definite ‘ton of material that would put Arthur to shame’ you refer to would be coming from... the SE from about 5 or so years back already unearthed unknown contemporary songs (Anytime, Good Good Life) that would’ve otherwise have been highlights of such a box and with that SE already filling out proceedings with the Percy material it doesn’t fill me with confidence that there’s much more content from this era to be uncovered. I didn’t realise until the last time this was discussed that there apparently isn’t even a true mono version of the album so again I’m wondering how they’re gonna fill up a full box. Going on the past 2 boxes, a 1970 demos medley and 21st century Ray Davies solo reworkings of songs are likely to feature but surely they would have to pull out a bit more to fill 4 or so discs, even with the Percy stuff.

    Still these boxes so far have offered some surprises so I’ll still be watching developments with interest. Just speaking as a fan with my own preferences, I don’t feel there’s as many unanswered questions about this era as there was about Arthur so I don’t see how this phase gets ‘filled out’ by a box in the same way but I’d love to be proved wrong. Apparently recordings did begin for a volume 2 (though details are thin on the ground) so maybe there’s some mileage there for unknown stuff. I always suspected the Vol 2 stuff bled over into Percy recordings but who knows. They could also go the DVD route on this one and bung songs clips, Long Distance Piano Player and even (dare to dream) the Percy film itself on there. That would definitely get me interested!
     
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  3. Trainspotting

    Trainspotting Senior Member

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    There never was a Something Else or a Face to Face box was there? I wouldn't mind seeing either of those one day as well.
     
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  4. TimeWarper

    TimeWarper A Well Respected Man

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    We didn't know about the session tapes (remixes) and demos for the Village Green album. I'm sure they'll find something.
     
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  5. TimeWarper

    TimeWarper A Well Respected Man

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    I don't think we will unless The Beatles go back to Rubber Soul and Revolver.
     
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  6. extravaganza

    extravaganza Forum Resident

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    Mostly stuff we have heard before, a few new mixes, a medley comprised of snippets of demos and 6 newly recorded tracks featuring Ray singing with a children’s choir.
     
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  7. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Forum Resident

    What's the best single-disc CD reissue to date?
     
  8. jkauff

    jkauff Putin-funded Forum Troll

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    I'm hoping there's live material available. They must have been gigging to support their #1 single, but I've never seen a list of shows during this period. John Gosling was in the band by then, so they certainly could have toured.

    I'd be in for 6-10 discs of Kinks live shows in a 50th box.
     
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  9. Safeway 1

    Safeway 1 "mad, bad, and dangerous to know"

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    This one came out in 2014 which I purchased already owning the Essential/Castle Communications releases of Lola and Percy. I only gained a couple
    songs I didn't have but thought it was worth it. Until the next anniversary release it's a good addition to your Kink's Kollection.
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  10. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    After the desasterous "Village Green" box set I'm done with The Kinks anniversary releases. They should do a nice AAA vinyl reissue. To get this album in stores again. Not going to happen.
     
  11. Mikey471

    Mikey471 Forum Resident

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    Do the tapes exist to allow the full album to be remixed? If so I suspect this would account for 1 extra disc.
     
  12. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    ‘Disasterous’? I remember it being pretty well received by most fans who got it and it performed well in the press. Or do you mean you didn’t like it personally? I had issues with it (oversized nothingy book, gigantic package loaded with vinyl and ephemera in general causing me guilt) but I thought the actual musical content on the CDs was pretty strong. Even total nerds like me got several discs of fascinating all new content to pore over and to a casual fan I imagine it would have been mind blowing. It might not have had everything on my wish list but the musical side was clearly assembled with much care and boasted loads of new content.
     
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  13. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    I thought it looked shoddy, really cheap. I'm also not a fan of reissue vinyl that has that plastic "Record Store Day" look. The sleeves looked like counterfeits and the missing photo was the final straw. The whole set just had "F.A.K.E." written all over it. Returned it instantly.

    An album like that would have deserved a more sympathetic authentic treatment. But... hey... people loved it. "Boxset of the year", my a**! :evil:
     
  14. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    Fair enough. I'm not much into reissue vinyl (of any kind) either but I thought the actual content on the CDs was very good stuff in the main. The 7 inch sized Arthur box weighed less heavily on my existential soul as a package.
     
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  15. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    Good point, I should have noted remembered that in my post above. The last 2 boxes featured remixes from the multis of most of and half the album respectively, so a similar representation for LVPATM would seem like a safe bet.
     
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  16. ajsmith

    ajsmith Forum Resident

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    They toured a lot in the US in 197o, and there are audience tapes out there, but after the Arthur set didn't make any use of the 1969 audience tapes, I wouldn't bet on the Lola box having any of this kind of live content. The Arthur book even had a whole section written by Doug Hinman on their 1969 US tour, which you'd think would have tied in nicely with a live disc on the set. My guess is that Ray wasn't happy with releasing the variable quality (both in performance and fidelity) live evidence of the tour.
     
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  17. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    Wasn't a fan of those hybrid boxes but the last two I bought - "Origin Of Muse" & "G Stands For Go-Betweens Vol.2" - convinced me that they can be done tastefully. Even if they are digitally sourced.
     
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  18. slop101

    slop101 Guitar Geek Thread Starter

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    Yeah, I got that back when it came out.
    In fact, Lola's been one of my favorite albums of all time, so I have a bunch of different versions of it - a few CDs and even a couple cassette tapes somewhere.
    Back in the '80s, I had a vinyl, but it's long gone. And that's why I really just want a nice all-analog vinyl (hopefully mastered by someone like Kevin Gray like they did with the mono set).
     
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  19. adm62

    adm62 Forum Resident

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    Looked fine to me, not cheap at all. Masses of vinyl, loads of CDs, nice printed content, but a missing photo? *The horror.

    * which they replaced very quickly anyway
     
  20. Claxton

    Claxton Senior Member

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    I’d like to see Ray and Dave write and release Lola vs. Powerman & the Moneygoround VOL. 2! We’ve been waiting 50 years! ;)
     
  21. tug_of_war

    tug_of_war Sassafras & Moonshine

    Or at least call the 50th anniversary edition Part II.
     
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  22. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley 5.1 should be mandatory for my favourite albums

    I know I am probably on my own, but I would love some Kinks in 5.1. This album would be an excellent place to start
     
  23. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    So we've all got different tastes. Good for you if you were happy with it. I'm glad I got rid of it because - and I'll stand by that - it was one of the cheapest looking "deluxe" sets I've ever seen. Those sleeves, please! :help:
     
  24. marmil

    marmil It's such a long story...

    I asked Andrew Sandoval two days ago if there was going to be a Lola box. He said he wasn't sure yet.
     
  25. Jack

    Jack It’s alright, in fact it’s a gas

    Agree. This box is still out on my coffee table so I can look at it and play the magic within.
     
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