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The RoboCop 2 Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Timeline Man, Apr 8, 2021.

  1. Timeline Man

    Timeline Man Time Traveler from Naples Thread Starter

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    Such a terrific sequel.

    The action sequences were thrilling, marvellous and well-directed. The stakes were higher, the production was on a grand-scale. The final battle was very climatic. Granted, it wasn't a masterpiece like the first movie but, hey, you cannot top that. You cannot top RoboCop 1987 anyway.

    The criticism behind RoboCop being RoboCop and not "Alex Murphy" is beyond me. RoboCop is not Alex Murphy. He's a cyborg who uses half a brain of Alex Murphy and who convinces himself to be "Alex Murphy", exactly like Swamp Thing convinces himself to be Alec Holland, but he isn't. Fact is, RoboCop is not Alex Murphy, so I'm glad that he gave up "acting" like Alex Murphy at the beginning of the movie. STILL, despite this, RoboCop manages to be human throughout the movie. He also attempts suicide in order to save himself, and that's meaningful.

    Peter Weller was great.

    Just a brilliant sequel, and it was a commercial hit all around the world.
     
  2. Spaghettiows

    Spaghettiows Forum Resident

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    Well, I haven't watched it since it was released. I loved the original RoboCop, it is among my Top-10 movies, but I thought that RoboCop 2 was a grim disappointment. But it was so long ago that I would be open to give it another view.

    I do remember that the gore factor was driven higher, which I wouldn't have previously thought possible. If I see it streaming, I'll give it another go.
     
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  3. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    I liked it all - even the TV series :hide:

    Of course, the original film is the real treasure.

     
  4. Pizza

    Pizza With extra pepperoni

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    You know what bothered me the most about Robocop 2? It didn’t have opening credits. I really hate that. At least flash the title for a few seconds. Anyway, 2 is better than 3 which reportedly was the original script for 2. So the director was smart getting rewrites as they filmed.
     
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  5. Bobby Buckshot

    Bobby Buckshot Heavy on the grease please

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    It's a good movie that I think has aged pretty well. The fact that there's no real redemption in the end leaves things kind of grim, and builds on the dystopic vision of the first one.
     
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  6. NaturalD

    NaturalD The King of Pop

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    I have a general fondness for tossed-off sequels that hit the right fun/trash buttons knowing that the original can't be matched. Robocop II adds some nice comedy which is almost essential for these. The Fly II from around the same time (sequel to Cronenberg, not the Vincent Price original) is another good one. There is probably an endless list of failures in this category, but I don't dwell on those.
     
  7. Spaghettiows

    Spaghettiows Forum Resident

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    That TV series is the overlooked gem of the RoboCop universe. I wish it had lasted longer. To me, it was more enjoyable than the sequel films.
     
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  8. Linton S. Dawson

    Linton S. Dawson Lovely sort of deviant

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    Unrated/director's cut RoboCop is gorier.
     
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  9. Rocker

    Rocker Senior Member

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    It's not on the same level as the original, but it's still a fun movie. Somewhat ironic that 10 years earlier, Irvin Kershner had directed one of the greatest sequels of all time (The Empire Strikes Back).

    I remember watching Robocop 2 frequently when I was a kid, but my copy was taped off the TV, so it was edited to pieces. To this day, when I watch the full unedited DVD, it almost feels like I'm watching an extended director's cut! :p
     
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  10. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    I'm guessing you are referring to Prime Directives (2001 miniseries, 4 feature length episodes) as opposed to the 1994 TV series (one season)?
     
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  11. Timeline Man

    Timeline Man Time Traveler from Naples Thread Starter

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    Absolutely true, word by word.
     
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  12. The Hud

    The Hud Will I ever get to 10,000 posts?

    The unrated director's cut is the only way to watch the original.

    RoboCop 2 is not as good as the first, but still worth watching. The Collector's Edition Blu-Ray by Shout Factory is a great disc with great picture, sound and extras.
     
  13. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    I love them equally...Weller was perfect for the role.
     
  14. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    this scene still freaks me out!
     
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  15. hi_watt

    hi_watt The Road Warrior

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    Saw Robocop 2 during its opening week when I was 12; loved it both then and now. Tom Noonan as Caine was a good villain who held his own in comparison to Kurtwood Smith's Clarence Boddicker. The stop motion animation is fun, especially with the climactic battle. Which reminds me, I need to buy the Blu Ray...
     
  16. seventeen

    seventeen Forum Resident

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    Paris, France
    "Jesus had days like this!"

    There's no opening credits to Robocop either, so Robocop 2 just follows suit.

    I have a workprint in mono, which is all scored with Poledouris original music from the first.

    It's 200% better that way.
     
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  17. Totally creepy too as The Tooth Fairy in ' Manhunter'.
     
  18. shug4476

    shug4476 Forum Resident

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    Thank you! I have been saying for years and years here in the UK that Robocop 2 is a masterpiece and I am yet to find a single person who agrees.

    Irvin Kershner (of Empire Strikes Back fame) last film. I adore it. Brilliantly conceived and executed.
     
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  19. Timeline Man

    Timeline Man Time Traveler from Naples Thread Starter

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    As far as sequels go, yes, it's a masterpiece. Not superior to the first one, but great in its own way.
    And it was a commercial hit anyway.
     
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  20. seventeen

    seventeen Forum Resident

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    The teaser with Poledouris music:

     
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  21. shug4476

    shug4476 Forum Resident

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    Not sure I agree - I may actually prefer the sequel. It's a close call.
     
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  22. Paul_s

    Paul_s Forum Resident

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    The politically correct directives in Robocop 2 wouldn't look out of place in 2021 :D
     
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  23. shug4476

    shug4476 Forum Resident

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    Nor the trumpian politics, the bankrupt cities, the attempts by private capital to seize control of state services, the state cutting deals with criminals to try and keep itself viable. All incredibly prophetic.
     
  24. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    I wish they would make directors cut...
    This is bar higher in gore than first one the guy getting shot in the eye ouch..
     
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  25. seventeen

    seventeen Forum Resident

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    The simple idea of a kid having a gun and using it to kill offended many people back in the days.
     
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