The ' Rocky ' Movies

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  1. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

     
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  2. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    me too...Creed 3!
     
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  3. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    cool! have a Rocky marathon. ; )
     
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  4. BILLONEEG

    BILLONEEG Senior Member

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    That is definitely a Rocky road I will travel often. That trip is worth it!!! The Creed movies are great too.
     
  5. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    me too..I love the Creed movies as well. ...I saw all of the Rocky movies "at the movies"...
     
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  6. Jord

    Jord Forum Resident

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    I'm still a bit bitter about killing of Apollo. He was such a charismatic character. Just put him in a coma or something.
     
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  7. S. P. Honeybunch

    S. P. Honeybunch Presidente de Kokomo, Endless Mikelovemoney

    Killing Creed demonstrates how many steroids that Drago uses, though. It helps to demonstrate that he has superhuman powers.
     
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  8. Wildest cat from montana

    Wildest cat from montana Humble Reader Thread Starter

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    There have been many deaths in the boxing ring.
    None of the boxers had "superhuman powers"
     
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  9. Randall DeBouvre

    Randall DeBouvre forum resident

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    the first rocky is my favorite. there is an interesting gentleness and warmth. I also found the "Marty-like" romance between Rocky and Adrian to be very moving.
     
  10. S. P. Honeybunch

    S. P. Honeybunch Presidente de Kokomo, Endless Mikelovemoney

    Still, it helps to demonstrate how powerful Drago's punch is.
     
  11. cdcollector87

    cdcollector87 Forum Resident

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    I like 1, 3 and 4. The others are awful yes. Really hoping Stallone puts out Rocky IV Director's Cut on Blu-ray soon. I don't know if it's better than the original one, but a 'better alternative version' is how I'd put it.
     
  12. 80steen

    80steen John McClane

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    Spoilers for those who haven't seen them all or have forgotten.

    First off, Rocky V is vastly underrated and sadly dismissed by many, including Stallone. It deals with the reality of losing it all when you're a rich celebrity if you make bad decisions, as well as a young fighter being taken advantage of by rich folks who don't really care about you as a person.
    The original Rocky is of course a classic, well directed and acted. That Rocky doesn't win at the end and all he cares about is going the distance and being with Adrian is what makes it even better, as well as realistic.
    Part 2 is pretty good and has some fun moments although it's not a great film, it's pretty good, and the "Yo Adrian, I did it" always works as the best ending of all of them, IMO.
    Rocky III is pretty realistic, as far as losing your edge goes and needing to learn how to get it back, as well as learning how to fight differently to face a particular opponent. The friendship between two former rivals, Rocky and Apollo is the best twist of the series.
    Rocky IV is as overrated as V is underrated. Th entire U.S. vs the USSR idea is over the top, as is the entire Drago character and that no one can beat him but Rocky. I could deal with IV had it not killed off Apollo. Stallone goes from the best twist in any series with their friendship in III, to the worse in IV.
     
  13. Jord

    Jord Forum Resident

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    I agree. It's very underrated and returns to the atmosphere of the first 2 movies.

    The relationship between Tommy and Rocky is interesting and the decision to let Rocky vicariously live through the career of his protegé is a smart one.
    The effects of this relationship on his family life are fitting and a good way to progress the story. I like that we see more of his family, who were basically relegated to being background characters in the previous two movies.

    Rocky 3 and 4 were entertaining but more cartoonish. Continuing that trend would have been difficult. How would you trump a super human athlete like Drago in a sequel?

    I do think that this is what people expected and wanted at the time and in that regard Rocky 5 can feel like a let down with Rocky not even stepping into the ring.
     
  14. 80steen

    80steen John McClane

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    His ring was outside :laugh: but seriously, you're right. I should have expanded, as you did, on how good the Rocky living through Tommy is for the plot. Plus, the street fight is as good as any bout in the ring.
     
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  15. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    IMO, one of the main problems with R5 is; the fight should have taken place in the RING not the street as all the others were... that ruined the prospect of a great fight! what we were served was a ridiculous street fight...meaningless to say the least...
    ROCKY entertains in the ring! as all the others were...
     
  16. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    really? the last one Rocky Balboa was the most heartfelt... a great fight and a beautiful swansong...
     
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  17. 80steen

    80steen John McClane

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    At the time though, the idea was Rocky was never gonna plan a ring fight because he was retired and suffering from brain damage due to his bouts in the ring, especially from Drago. V is supposed to be not long after IV. I always thought the street fight was a great twist and pretty bad ass :agree:
     
  18. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    that's hysterical as he got beaten up brutally way more than if he took the fight in the RING...funny stuff...
     
  19. 80steen

    80steen John McClane

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    Well he didn't expect Tommy to show up and punch Paulie, so it called for swift justice. Plus Rocky in the ring always blocked punches with his face
     
  20. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    justice in the ring...; )
    and he would have made millions....just an opinion.
     
  21. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    collectively all of the Rocky movies are fun and loved by many. I never get tired of watching them... I wasn't crazy about the DC of 4...
     
  22. 80steen

    80steen John McClane

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    Yeah, he tells Adrian at the lawyer's office that a couple of fights and they'd be back in their feet but he'd already gotten the brain scans back and she didn't want him to fight regardless. I see your point, if he's gonna risk his head now he might as well get paid, but it was heat of the moment. But still, for me, killing Apollo was worse than anything in V
     
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  23. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    He got more damage in the street fight for sure...barefisted no holds barred was not a good thing.
     
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  24. 80steen

    80steen John McClane

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    Yeah, he probably knocks Tommy out early in the ring
     
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  25. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    without a doubt! quick, easypeasy and profitable. ; ) he trained him well but not well enough!
     

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