The Technics SL-1200 GAE/G/GR general questions thread

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Halloween_Jack, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. norliss

    norliss Forum Resident

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    Don't think that's right: how can the effective mass be lower than the headshell? :confused:
     
  2. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

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    I found that a OC9XSL was right at 7hz on the GR tonearm.
    -with the stock HS.
     
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  3. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

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    use 12 for the arm, it includes the oem head shell
    Cartridge and compliance (static) are good
    The AT static compliance is 20 ?
    Or is there a conversion?
    Looks likes units are equivalent, 20

    Head shell ~ 11- 7.6 = 3.4 (the difference)

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

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    I used dynamic at 16 x 1.6. Tonearm at 9.1 per a Hi-Fi News published spec and Audio Technica confirmation. Headshell is AT-LH11H at 11 grams.
     
  5. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

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    Do you have a link to the hifi news spec?
    The only thing I can find is forum stuff and an old Technics manual 12 gm.

    Why not use the AT spec?
    20 static
     
  6. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

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  7. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

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    When I use
    Mass = 9 + 6.4 (cart) + 2.4 (head shell delta)
    18 assumed with hardware.
    1.75 x 10 (100 Hz compliance, range 1.5-2)

    [​IMG]
     
  8. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

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  9. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

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    cart is 7.6 grams and the non-stock headshell is 11 grams.
     
  10. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

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    Which calculator is that?
     
  11. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

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  12. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

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  13. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

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    [​IMG]
    Mass 9 + 11 + 7.6 ~ 28
    Compliance 1.6 x 16 ~ 26
     
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  14. Madison Mike

    Madison Mike Forum Resident

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    HiFi Heaven is a great place.
     
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  15. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

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    It’s tonearm + headshell.
     
  16. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

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    This exactly matches my calculation so maybe it’s all good? Well not exactly my calculation came up with 4.8 resonance peak.
     
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  17. btstu

    btstu Forum Resident

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    New York, NY
    Anyone using a Nagaoka MP-500 on their 1200? Been thinking about picking one up when I send in my Zu DL-103r to get retipped and saving the Zu for more occasional use in the future.

    I'm hesitant to go from MC to MM - I wouldn't want to spend almost $1k and have it feel like a step down. But the idea of replaceable styli is alluring...
     
  18. grass-fed

    grass-fed Forum Resident

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    Germany
    I feel like the MP-200 will be more than good enough. I use it on my GR, and it seems like many people who move up from the 200 to the 300 or 500 end up missing the 200 a bit. With that said, I can only speak for the MP-200: No fuss, plug and play, sounds great.
     
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  19. Joel S

    Joel S Forum Resident

    Congrats. If it arrives and it's made in Malaysia, please post back with a quick review. There have been no reports on the Malaysian GR's. Thanks.
     
  20. Slimwhit33

    Slimwhit33 Forum Resident

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    Will do.. I have zero concerns about where it's built.. I'm sure it will be no different than the MiJ units but will absolutely report back if it arrives..
     
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  21. Slimwhit33

    Slimwhit33 Forum Resident

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    Just called for an update, they're not in stock. Boo.
     
  22. monitorpop

    monitorpop Well-Known Member

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    Michigan
    I also have the Nagaoka MP-200 on my 1200GR. I’m not into critical listening but think it sounds really good.

     
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  23. btstu

    btstu Forum Resident

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    New York, NY
    Did you get the model pre-mounted on a headshell?
     
  24. grass-fed

    grass-fed Forum Resident

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    Germany
    Nope, it was my first cartridge, so I used the stock headshell. With pre-mount I would worry about blaming it for everything that sounds off. I feel like the technics overhang gauge makes things easy enough as is. I'm sure things can get even better with a protractor.

    With plug and play, I meant that the cartridge is not really fussy about alignment. Then again, if I remember correctly the stylus is fairly huge by elliptical standards.
     
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  25. Joel S

    Joel S Forum Resident

    Sorry.
     

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