The Weakest Link: Van Halen, Diver Down-ROUND TWO

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Zoot Marimba, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Forum Resident

    Listening to this album now on Amazon HD.
    I'd originally voted "Secrets" off cuz I couldn't remember it at the moment.
    I know realize that song further convinced me that they were versatile. GREAT song!
    So I voted "Cathedral" off. It's still great EVH noodling, but not in the league of "Eruption" or "Spanish Fly".
     
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  2. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Forum Resident

    I was just gonna tag you! This album has your song on it!
     
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  3. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Forum Resident

    One more thing: I wouldn't have voted off "Big Bad Bill"....yet.
    Again, another song that proved VH had a sense of humor; could be sonically diverse; and Alex & Eddie's dad is on Clarinet! I mean, come on!
     
  4. jeffd7030

    jeffd7030 Don't forget the pouring rain.

    Location:
    Hampden, ME
    Cathedral and Full Bug

    Since 1986 I have always ranked this as lowest of the first 7(!) VH albums.
     
  5. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

    Location:
    The Southwest
    I like it a lot as well. Voted it off this round (along with Cathedral) because I think the other remaining songs are the best on the album, although upon further review maybe I should have kept it around longer and voted off Pretty Woman.
     
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  6. WhoTapes1

    WhoTapes1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Cathedral & Secrets. After this, it really starts to get tough for me.
     
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  7. Fullbug

    Fullbug Forum Resident

    Location:
    Seattle
    It sure does. I'm a little hurt that people are voting The Full Bug off the island.
     
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  8. Exile On My Street

    Exile On My Street Senior Member

    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    "There are three rings in marriage...the engagement ring, the wedding ring....and the suffering..." - DLR
     
  9. Exile On My Street

    Exile On My Street Senior Member

    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I like Secrets a lot, second favorite song on the album.
     
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  10. Mechanical Man

    Mechanical Man Cease to Exist

    Location:
    Oakland, CA, USA
    Voted for "Cathedral" and "Pretty Woman" this time around. Count me in as a fan of "Dancing"-- the arrangement on that one with the Mini Moog is pretty creative.

    DQ: I'd say weakest of the Roth albums, but better than anything they cranked out with Van Hagar or with Cherone.
     
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  11. JohnG

    JohnG PROG Nation!

    Location:
    New York, NY
    One of my all time guilty pleasure albums! Though it’s not in any VH Top 5, it’s one I play the most and it’s fun. Intruder is one of the most bad ass things I’ve ever heard and always inspired me to play guitar.
     
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  12. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    Why be guilty? It’s VAN F—ING HALEN*.
     
  13. JohnG

    JohnG PROG Nation!

    Location:
    New York, NY
    :D
     
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  14. coolsound

    coolsound Forum Resident

    my favorite van halen album. better production than the first and second. the sound they create from the beginning was so "restricting" , they couldn't have done new songs, which sounded always the same. Diver down was opening a new era in the new lighter roth's style.
     
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  15. agentalbert

    agentalbert Forum Resident

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    Voting (same as last round):

    Cathedral
    Secrets

    I can't believe The Full Bug is getting so many votes again. And this is probably my favorite version of Dancing In The Streets. Far better than that Bowie/Jagger abomination.
     
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  16. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    Yeah man. I know Full Bug isn’t one of Dave’s stronger moments lyrically, but he still manages to make it work; besides, the song rips.
     
  17. agentalbert

    agentalbert Forum Resident

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    Yep. It's one of the three great rockers (with Little Guitars and Hang Em High) on the album. Conversely, I don't get why Where Have All The Good Times Gone is so popular? It's and okay tune, I do like it. But I've always found it a bit bland of an opener. And I just don't think it quite measures up to the best tracks on the album. Yet it looks like its destined to make the final three. Strange (to me)...
     
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  18. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group Thread Starter

    I go with “Dancing” and “Cathedral”.

    DQ: Not as good as the first four. For least favorite of the six pack, I flip flop between this and 1984. That being said, all six are great albums. Where ADKOT ranks, I’d say behind the six pack but well ahead of Van Hagar of whatever the Cherone thing was.
     
  19. Jerry c.

    Jerry c. Forum Resident

    listened on the way to work this morning. im beginning to think the criticism is totally unfounded. i also think i could use about 5 more minutes of "intruder"
     
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  20. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley 5.1 should be mandatory for my favourite albums

    Probably not a popular choice, but I am voting off Pretty Woman and Dancing In The street ... they're ok, but I don't find them to be essential Van Halen.

    This is probably my Bottom DLR VH album ....
    I enjoy the first two, but Fair Warning and Women And Children First are my two favourites.
    1984 is somewhere between 3 and 5, depending on how I'm feeling on any given day.
     
  21. ampmods

    ampmods Forum Resident

    Location:
    Boston, MA, USA
    I think this is my favorite VH album.
     
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  22. Chop

    Chop Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington DC
    I'm frankly shocked that anyone is voting it off in early rounds. It ticks every classic VH box to my ears.
     
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  23. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Location:
    Alexandria VA
    Wow! I won't call the original "Dancing" an all-time Motown fave, but it's a solid song!
     
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  24. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Location:
    Alexandria VA
    I can't view the Bowie/Jagger version objectively. I loved it back in 1985 - and loved the video as well!

    2 of my all-time faves together was just such a treat!
     
  25. Rosskolnikov

    Rosskolnikov Designated Cloud Yeller

    You make a good point. When I think about it, there's nothing terribly offensive (either musically or lyrically) to "hate" it. I do think there could be some bleed-over in that I heard Van Halen's version, the Jagger-Bowie version, and the original all at about the same time. I may have been SO put off by Jagger-Bowie and by Ed Van Halen's comments about the song that in subliminally turned me against it.
     

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