The Who: Moving On- 2019 North American Tour / New Album

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  1. BlueJay

    BlueJay Forum Resident

    So when's the new Beatles album coming out?
     
  2. Benn Kempster

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    .....or not. :doh:
     
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  3. mmars982

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    Funny, the big news just a few weeks ago was that Roger & Pete hand't spoken in a year because Pete needed a break.
     
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  4. beatleswho

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  5. beatleroadie

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    He should really drop the e, though. Looks more rock-and-roll without it ha ha.
     
  6. mbleicher1

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    Came here to say this. For whatever reason, Pete didn't want to use an actual drummer for most of Endless Wire, probably to prove that he, not Keith Moon, was the best drummer for the Who. Unreal.
     
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  7. Bill

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    Lennin.
     
  8. BwanaBob

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    I hope they don't call it Floss because inevitably some butthole critic will call it "loss" or "dross".
     
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  9. footlooseman

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    Woodstock 69!
     
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  11. Nothing4Free

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    "Endless Wire" was useless, they need a new album to erase that !
     
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  12. PacificOceanBlue

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    If the new material is still in demo form and there are no concrete plans to hit the studio prior to preparing for a grueling tour, it will be surprising to see a new album surface later in year.
     
  13. majorlance

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    This. Could apply to any number of "classic" artists. Well said.
    :tiphat:
     
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  14. Michael Rose

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  15. vitorbastos123

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    I actually thought that they were going to do a Whos Next/Lifehouse gig and recorded for a Blu Ray release like they with the other two masterpieces. My dream opening would be Love Aint For Keeping. It seems that will never happen.
     
  16. Michael Rose

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    I love this bit from Pete:

    He doesn’t text and he’s just now starting to use e-mail, but he isn’t very good at it.

    That's true of any one of our (grand) parents too. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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  17. RocksOff87

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    Thank goodness it’ll be arenas instead of stadiums for the most part :thumbsup:
     
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  18. Benn Kempster

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    Utter nonsense. Probably?

    He wanted there to be a distinction between what The Who were at the time on stage and what he saw as The Who, at that point, in a studio environment. Nothing to do with Keith vs Pete as drummer whatsoever.

    Thanks ever so much for stopping by.....
     
  19. Smokin Chains

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    Right, they aren't even communicating right now, but an album will get done? Rehearsals for tour in the spring, tour will take them into summer, summer they are doing festivals and probably need some rest, then the tour resumes in the fall.

    Unless they will record on the road or something on their days off between stops, which I doubt they'll do.

    Interesting that Townshend recorded the demos in five different studios. I assume these were at five of his houses? :)
     
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  20. mbleicher1

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    Pete's been giving interviews for the last forty-odd years either stating outright or strongly implying that Keith Moon was not a good drummer for Pete's artistic visions and that Pete's demos (where he drummed) better reflected what he wanted than the versions played with Keith. See, e.g., “In an egotistical way I always prefer my demos to what the Who does.” —Pete Townshend, Rolling Stone interview with Jonathan Cott, May 14, 1970.

    It's sheer bullheadedness to make a "Who" record without propulsive, explosive drumming. That's part of the Who. Townshend had at least a few songs on Endless Wire that had every other hallmark of the might, bombast, and energy of traditional Who songs, such as "Mike Post Theme" and "It's Not Enough." Those songs are not musically dissimilar from the music the Who plays onstage at each gig. So for Townshend to claim that there was some distinction in the band's studio work is disingenuous: there is plenty of overlap. In fact, another EW song, Fragments, is littered with quotes from Who's Next-era Who--not just the synth loop. All of this suggests an effort to consciously re-create the specific magic of a vintage Who song on some of these uptempo tracks. If Pete wanted to draw a distinction, he wouldn't have included those songs, or he would have arranged and structured other parts of the songs--like his power chord riffs and Roger's singing--to also differentiate them from the Who's stage performances. He did not. The only thing different? The weak drumming. What has Pete wanted to do, in interview after interview? Insist that he was hamstrung by the other members of the Who, most especially Keith Moon (too frenetic and undisciplined, in Pete's view), but also John (too loud) and Roger (too simple).
     
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  21. arthurprecarious

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    Can't agree. He's had work for sure but his voice is pretty good. Listen to his album. Try Dylan for a bad voice
     
  22. Michael Rose

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    IIRC, When Endless Wire was being produced, Pete wanted Zak to play on most tracks but at the time he was touring with Oasis. That's why he was only featured on a couple of tracks.
     
  23. Crimson Witch

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    A new Daltshend album ?
    That'd be cool if they bring it
     
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  24. Benn Kempster

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    *YOU'R* version of it, perhaps. The drumming is a single element of whatever The Who was in the studio. There's not a massive amount of explosive drumming on Tommy, The Who By Numbers or Who Are You and yet they are time-honoured classics in many eyes.

    It's not at all. At that point, The Who, on the road, were an extremely busy entity and the band as a studio outfit did *not* exist. Pete persuaded Roger, through the strength of the demos he gave him, that the material was worth Roger recording. Pete then completed those recordings using his own or other musicians' contributions and was then convinced to put the album out as an album by The Who.

    It *could* very easily have come out as a Townshend solo album in the same way that Going Back Home did for Roger last year (featuring another member of The Who); there'd have been all sorts of implications for that but what we got was stronger than either It's Hard or Face Dances and, arguably, as good as Who Are You.
     
  25. Jet Age Eric

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    If they track live with the band to Pete's demos MAYbe ... ? These are session players for the most part. Another possibility is that it's largely Pete demos which are largely complete from an arrangement perspective, so you drop Roger in. OR ... yeah, no way. Obviously, I'm hoping for scenario 1. -E
     
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