Tim Buckley: Album by Album, note for note appreciation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by lemonade kid, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. gazatthebop

    gazatthebop Forum Resident

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    the latest Goodbye and Hello cd (2017) has reverted back to the original inner gatefold pic

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  2. gazatthebop

    gazatthebop Forum Resident

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    Eponymous demos

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  3. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I love this album. I hear folks talk about the production, but it has never perturbed me at all.

    No man can find the war
    A really effective track that I enjoy, and a good intro to the album.

    Sorry I've been MIA.
    Trying, but a little busy at the moment
     
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  4. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Glad you are back...
     
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  5. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    track 2) Carnival Song (Buckley)

    We move forward to an almost nightmarish tripped out tune with psychedelic lyrics and dark vibrations...
    love it.

    For me the Buckley penned songs for the most part on G&H (lyrics and tunes) are the standouts,
    as they reveal a painfully honest man. Gotta resect an artist
    or person willing to reveal his soul to one and all...

    As Stills aptly said in his song,
    "Still my heart is an open secret,
    someone tell me have I been gifted or robbed?"



    The singer cries for people's lies
    He will sing for the day to bring him night
    The circus burns in carnival flame
    And for a while you won't know my name at all
    But sing and dance and love for pennies and gold

    The juggling clown smiles to me
    And every frown we agree is glad
    The nighttime comes to bring the bums
    From Bowery heat to crimson streets of wine
    But magic lands will never touch our sands

    Your children smile in single file
    They learn mistakes that others make
    They see although they cannot know
    The needs they'll need to have their greed grow wild
    But dance and sing, for others bring the shame
    And for a while you won't know my name

    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Buckley
     
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  6. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Carnival Song...from Dream Letter

    Hi Lily, Hi Lo/Carnival Song...so when assembled into a stunning medley.

    Is a 12-string as hard to tune and keep in tune as I imagine. Tim, talks and tunes...
    Such a fine essential live set, Dream/LetterLive In London


     
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  7. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    The production fits Tim and the times...and still holds a special place on my TT.


    Stay safe Down Under in Arkansas?, MW...hope life is sane there.
     
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  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Life has never been particularly sane anywhere.... particularly if I am in the room :)

    Nothing about life changed for me this year really. Still 75 hrs a week and 300+ people a day to deal with.
    Be safe in your zone mate:righton:
     
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  9. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Carnival Song
    I like the, almost, token 3 beat feel, and the way the strings play in the background. The carnival noises give this a somewhat surreal feel at times, and Tim sings this beautiful melody over the top, really starting to stretch his voice out.
    I find the lyrics to have a nice poetic feel to them too.
    Good song..... a 5.1 of this album would be excellent!
     
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  10. gazatthebop

    gazatthebop Forum Resident

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  11. mameyama

    mameyama Forum Resident

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    Carnival Song...from Dream Letter
    This bears no relation to the Carnival Song on Goodbye and Hello. But it does illustrate an amazing talent he had for live improvisation- in this case taking a popular song and adding his own lyrics, rhythms and vocalizations. This improvisatory approach left his songs, and the covers he did, in constant flux, and kept his musical partners such as Lee Underwood and Carter CC Collins on their toes. It can be thrillingly witnessed through the many posthumous live recordings from 1968, such as the Live In London set. More than most artists his studio versions are just snapshots in time.
     
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  12. gazatthebop

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    original USA mono copy. There is a different label copy with the cat. no above "side one"

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  13. Clonesteak

    Clonesteak Forum Resident

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    The carnival sounds remind me of Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite off of Sgt Peppers. I am curious the timeline of both songs. Did Tim hear Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite before he did The Carnival Song? I love both songs and both have the circus vibe.
     
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  14. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Could be. Peppers was released in May and Tim recorded G&H in June.
     
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  15. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Yes. Tim would always buck the "system", never standing still, and never looking back.

    When he appeared on The Monkees in 1968, instead of playing a track from what was viewed as the new big hit album artist from Elektra, he played an entirely new song...
    Then in 1969, Happy Sad would be another entirely new direction that served to confuse fans who wanted another folk/rock/psych Goodbye & Hello...

    Tim..never standing still.

    Song To The Siren
     
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  16. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    track 3) Pleasant Street (Buckley)

    An all time favorite by Tim...again his own words and music.
    This one
    soars with etherial singing, stretching Tim's vocal chops beyond human bounds, angelic,
    wonderful backing musicians, and psych vibes at their best.

    This foretells of Tim's experimental leanings soon to come.





    You don't remember what to say
    You don't remember what to do
    You don't remember where to go
    You don't remember what to choose
    You wheel, you steal, you feel, you kneel down


    All the stony people
    Walking 'round in Christian licorice clothes
    I can't hesitate
    And I can't wait
    For Pleasant Street


    The sunshine reminds you of concreted skies
    You thought you were flying but you opened your eyes
    And you found yourself falling back to yesterday's lies
    Hello, Pleasant Street, you know she's back again
    You wheel, you steal, you feel, you kneel down


    All the stony people
    Walking 'round in Christian licorice clothes
    I can't hesitate
    And I can't wait
    For Pleasant Street


    At twilight your lover comes to your room
    He'll spin you, he'll weave you 'round his emerald loom
    And softly you'll whisper all around his ear
    "Sweet lover, I love Pleasant Street
    I wheel, I steal, I feel my way down to kneel"


    All the stony people
    Walking 'round in Christian licorice clothes
    I can't hesitate
    And I can't wait
    For Pleasant Street


    You don't remember what to say
    You don't remember what to do
    You don't remember which way to go
    You don't remember who to choose
    You wheel, you steal, you feel, you kneel down


    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Buckley
     
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  17. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Pleasant Street (cut from film "The Christian Licorice Store")

     
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  18. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    In between tracks shared daily here, you all may like to watch this again, or for the first time.

    My Fleeting House...the documentary. 1 hour 49 minutes short!

     
  19. mameyama

    mameyama Forum Resident

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    Pleasant Street
    The most stunning track to date I think ....and thanks for attaching the 2 videos- great to see Tim in action.
    I think he loved Pleasant Street. It's the only song from his first two albums that he carried through to his live sets in the 1970s. It can be heard on the only official document of him live in the 1970s- "Honeyman- Live 1973".
     
  20. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Pleasant Street live 1973...constantly evolving and yes, he played it with new vision each time.

    Really pretty stunning.


     
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  21. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Acoustic...Pleasant Street..an intimate and beautiful version

     
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  22. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    And from Live In London 1968


    Pleasant Street/You Keep Me Hanging On
     
  23. Clonesteak

    Clonesteak Forum Resident

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    Pleasant Street is definitely a top tier song of his on this album. I love the lyrics and I love the meaning of “Christian Licorice People” which rings true today. He sings this song with such conviction that this gives me the shivers hearing him sing this song. A very powerful song.
     
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  24. Roger Thornhill

    Roger Thornhill Senior Member

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    Lee Underwood has G&H as being recorded in May and says that Tim played him it in "early May" - and besides Carnival Song is on the Folklore Center CD on 6th March.
     
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  25. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Thanks. All around the same time it seems...so wiki was my [often wrong] source.
    Wiki: "Recorded in June and released in August 1967." But of course song development for Goodbye and Hello likely went back months before May or June [your Folklore Center reference]. But the inspiration for the backing circus sounds could easily be inspired by Peppers.
     
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