Tim Buckley: Album by Album, note for note appreciation

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  1. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    track 4) Hallucinations (Buckley/Beckett)

    Etherial.

    Atmospheric.

    Overtly
    beautifully
    psychedelic.

    and so fine.





    I saw you walking
    Only yesterday
    When I ran to catch you
    You disappeared
    And the street was gray

    The candle died
    Now you are gone
    For the flame was too bright
    Now you are gone

    I heard you laughing
    With your laugh of gold
    When I called out to you
    Silence returned
    And the air was cold

    The castle fell
    Now you are gone
    And no more rings the bell
    Now you are gone

    I found a letter
    On the day it rained
    When I tore it open
    There in my hands
    Only ash remained


    The castle fell
    Now you are gone
    And no more rings the bell
    Now you are gone

    I felt you breathing
    As I fell asleep
    When I reached out to touch you
    No one was there
    And the night was deep

    The candle died
    Now you are gone
    For the flame was too bright
    Now you are gone

    I saw you walking
    Only yesterday
    When I ran to catch you
    You disappeared
    And the street was gray

    The castle fell
    Now you are gone
    No more rings the bell
    Now you are gone

     
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  2. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Pleasant Street
    I have always liked that descending bassline style, and this track has a nice descending line that comes back up on the last note.
    The melancholy is palpable.
    We then burst into this somewhat aggressive major key chorus, and it is very effective to my ears.
    I like the rhythmic structure, it's over a 4 beat, but has a nice groove to it.
    All in all a really effective track.
     
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  3. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Thanks for the breakdown...keep em comin' please.

    :tiphat:


    "Hallucinations" is nest above...tell me about your take on it and breakdown the key, metre etc...
     
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  4. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Hallucinations
    A nice mellow change up, after the bouncing Pleasant Street.
    This seems very kind of traditional folk based, and has like a hanging tension note that moves into a melodic line following the vocal.
    I like the wall of percussion. I guess for some the reverb is a little splashy.... perhaps it is these type of things that make folk feel this is over produced, but it isn't the kind of thing that phases me.
    To some degree this seems almost like a precursor, to some of the more exploratory tracks down the line.
    This is a nice atmospheric track that brings something a little different to the table, and it adds a lot to the album flow, in my opinion, by giving it that bit of difference, and yet still fitting the general feel we have had up to this point.
    Excellent track.
     
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  5. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    What you said...great track and essential to the Buckley catalog.
     
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  6. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    It's interesting with the metering here. It is a 4 beat, but I think, like Led Zep sometimes did, there are odd bars mixed in at certain points to give it a certain feel.
    Without sitting down properly and trying to count it, which is something I just generally don't do, even if I'm going to be playing something, I'm pretty sure that is where the slightly odd feel in spots comes from.

    Edit: I'm trying with the meters and such, but it isn't really my specialty. I tend to play be ear, and feel. I can read music, but not well, and I rely on listening to a song to really get the groove of it. I wonder if @Rose River Bear likes, or knows Tim well, certainly much better at this than I
     
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  7. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    track 5) I Never Asked To Be Your Mountain (Buckley)

    A standout track and an emotional, heart on his sleeve
    amazing song.

    The musicianship alone makes this one stand out and also gives us insight
    into the direction Tim would pursue very soon.

    His vocals are reaching amazing new and wow exciting heights...
    stunning jazz improv exploration in it's birth here.





    O I never asked to be your mountain
    I never asked to fly
    Remember when you came to me
    And told me of his lies
    You didn't understand my love
    You don't know why I try
    And the rain was falling on that day
    And damn the reason why

    The Flying Pisces sails for time
    And tells me of my child
    Wrapped in bitter tales and heartache
    He begs for just a smile
    O he never asked to be her mountain
    He never asked to fly
    And through his eye he comes his love
    And tells her not to cry

    She says, "Your scoundrel father flies
    With a dancer called a queen
    And with her stolen cards he plays
    And laughs, but never wins"
    O the child dreams to be his hands
    In the counting of the rain
    But only barren breasts he feels
    For her milk will never drain

    As I die I can't remember
    Where I saw the rain:
    Could it be that her laughter
    Drove me down again?
    Charming dancer will you stop,
    Stop and talk to me?
    Is there someone else you feel
    In your dreams? you will, you see:
    In midnight gazes
    I've found you far from me:
    If you lead me on
    Please leave me down

    O Flying Flying Fish
    Please flutter by my door:
    Yes you can drink my lies
    If first you read my eyes:
    Each one is titled
    "I'm drowning back to you":
    I can't swim your waters
    And you can't walk my lands:
    I'm sailing all my sins
    And I'm climbing all my fears
    And soon now I'll fly

    O I never asked to be your mountain
    I never asked to fly
    Remember when you came to me
    And told me of his lies
    You didn't understand my love
    You don't know why I try
    And the rain was falling on that day
    And that's the reason why

    Sweet lover, will you come back
    And love me for a while?
    Please take my hand
    Leave all your fears behind

    I've been gone too long
    Now I'm home to stay
    Please don't leave me

    Again this way
    Please come home

    Source: Musixmatch
    Songwriters: Tim Buckley
     
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  8. mameyama

    mameyama Forum Resident

    Location:
    Wiltshire, UK
    I Never Asked To Be Your Mountain
    Absolute classic, I love this one. His driven 12-string, manic percussion, impassioned vocals and heart-bearing, but disparaging, lyrics.
    "Flying Pisces" refers to his young bride, who he abandoned for his music career. One wonders what she made of this song- no doubt some bitterness towards Tim.
     
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  9. elaterium

    elaterium Forum Resident

    My favorite TB song.
     
  10. elaterium

    elaterium Forum Resident

    Just listened to it. Yes, On casual listening it has the odd bar of 5/4 3/4 and 7/8. Tricky to nail down.
     
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  11. Clonesteak

    Clonesteak Forum Resident

    Location:
    Kalamazoo, MI
    My favorite Tim song too. Just an amazing song!!!
     
  12. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    track 6) Once I Was (Buckley/Beckett)

    A bit of a waltz...One of my top favorite Buckley songs (yes there quite a few, but this just stuns me every time!)
    ...just beautiful.



    Once I was a soldier
    And I fought on foreign sands for you
    Once I was a hunter
    And I brought home fresh meat for you
    Once I was a lover
    And I searched behind your eyes for you
    And soon there'll be another
    To tell you I was just a lie

    And sometimes I wonder
    Just for a while
    Will you ever remember me

    And though you have forgotten
    All of our rubbish dreams
    I find myself searching
    Through the ashes of our ruins
    For the days when we smiled
    And the hours that ran wild
    With the magic of our eyes
    And the silence of our words

    And sometimes I wonder
    Just for a while
    Will you ever remember me
    Ever remember me

    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Larry Beckett / Tim Buckley
     
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  13. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Jeff honoring his pop...live Once I Was. A lovely touching cover, but Tom was the man, hands down.
    Jeff can't touch his pop's voice, for me anyway, especially live.



     
  14. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Tom Once I Was (Dream Letter-Live In London)...stunningly perfect. Jeff's pales by comparison.
    God, what a voice. So strong!


     
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  15. Clonesteak

    Clonesteak Forum Resident

    Location:
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Once I was always reminds me of my buddy and me staying up late drinking beers and listening to this tune. This was the first time my buddy ever heard of Tim Buckley and he took to a liking of him right away. We both really liked this song a lot and played it a few times in a row. Such a great but sad, sad song. We will remember Tim the rest of our lives. He made some rememberable songs and this is one that will randomly stick in my head and will play inside my head from time to time. This would have to be my second favorite song in this album and never heard a bad version from Tim.
     
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  16. Just catching up on the thread and all of the songs covered from Goodbye and Hello are superb. Pleasant Street, Once I Was and I Never Asked To Be Your Mountain are some of the very best he recorded.
     
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  17. mameyama

    mameyama Forum Resident

    Location:
    Wiltshire, UK
    Once I Was
    Small correction- these are Tim's lyrics.
    All versions of this are great- the John Peel session version is also worth a listen or 10. It's noticeably slower than the album or Dream Letter versions. And the demo version on "Lady" is at glacial pace.
     
  18. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Right. I knew that, but doubted myself with "lyricfind" falsely crediting Buckley/Beckett...threadster, trust thyself.

    I find that Tim's lyrics often are my favorite songs. Maybe because they come right from his heart. Beckett's lyrics are wonderful but often come from a more romanticist's poetic sensibilities and thus not delving quite as deeply into that personal place as Tim's.
     
  19. mameyama

    mameyama Forum Resident

    Location:
    Wiltshire, UK
    Lyrics
    Thanks for including the lyrics along with the songs.
    Larry Beckett was Tim's main song writing partner. A close friend of Tim's from their school days he even briefly played drums in one of Tim's early bands- the Bohemians. He wasn't talented musically but was obsessed with words and poetry from an early age. His style is generally more over-wrought, archaic and complex than Tim's and on the first two albums it's usually pretty clear whose lyrics you are listening to (though on the later albums I find this much less true).
    Beckett contributed a little over half of the lyrics to the first two albums. Tim then wrote all the lyrics to his next 3 albums (Happy Sad, Blue Afternoon and Lorca). Beckett then returned strongly for Starsailor and also made contributions to the last 3 albums. Over the 9 albums I estimate Tim was responsible for about 65% of the lyrics, 25% Beckett and 10% others.
    Tim sought out, and greatly appreciated, Beckett's contributions. Tim was a great interpreter of his work as exemplified by his 3 versions of "Song to the Siren". Beckett says that many of the lyrics to the later albums were cut and paste- he would send lyrics for several songs to Tim who would then take out lines from different songs and reassemble them into something he liked.
    In general I too prefer Tim's songs and many years ago wished he had written all his own songs. But over time I have come to appreciate Beckett's contributions as a vital part of the story.
    Beckett is an interesting guy and can be heard contributing to the talking heads section of the Tim documentary "My Fleeting House". Some of his comments on Tim's music can seem bizarre to a Tim fan but he is never less than honest.
     
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  20. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Love many Beckett penned lyrics, especially Morning Glory. Yes. Beckett contributions to "My Fleeting House" are essential and very interesting indeed.
     
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  21. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I never asked to be your mountain

    I love this song.
    To be honest I loved this so much I plagiarized it when I was a pup, and essentially wrote a song that may as well have well been a cover.
    This is like a fast four beat, but the way the vocal rushes and then drags over the almost frantic rhythm guitar, it creates a rhythmic tension.
    I find it hard to be objective here, great song.
     
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  22. mark winstanley

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    Once I Was

    This is a beautiful song, and along with Mountain, were the two songs that really drew me into this album.
    We have this nice three beat stumble going on.
    The bridge/chorus? Sometimes I wonder ... it is just so beautiful that I am instantly sold.
     
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  23. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    Yes indeed to all you said...the lyrics grab me every time. They surprise and enchant with each and every listen.
     
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  24. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    It's a great album. Thanks for running the thread. I've been wandering around and have kept meaning to dive into the album box I bought, but keep getting dragged this way and that by other stuff.
     
  25. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing Thread Starter

    track 7) Phantasmagoria In Two (Buckley)

    A lilting mesmerizing song -- beautiful lyrics. Love it so much.
    Hypnotic and magical Baroque psychedelic!



    If a fiddler played you a song, my love
    And if I gave you a wheel
    Would you spin for my heart and loneliness
    Would you spin for my love

    If I gave up all of my pride for you
    And only loved you for now
    Would you hide my fears and never say
    "Tomorrow I must go"

    Everywhere there's rain my love
    Everywhere there's fear

    If you tell me a lie I'll cry for you
    Tell me of sin and I'll laugh
    If you tell me of all the pain you've had
    I'll never smile again

    Everywhere there's rain my love
    Everywhere there's fear

    I can plainly see that our parts have changed
    Our sands are shifting around
    Need I beg to you for one more day
    To find our lonely love

    Everywhere there's rain my love
    Everywhere there's fear

    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Tim Buckley
     
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