'Tone Poet' Jazz Reissue Series*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by cds23, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Kimiimacman

    Kimiimacman Forum Resident

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  2. bresna

    bresna Senior Member

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    I love the slow blues track, "Phil T. McNasty's Blues". Of course, I love most slow blues tunes done by Jazz artists.
     
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  3. YouCantWin

    YouCantWin Lacking in Some Direction

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    In preparation for the TP box set later this month, I started working my way through my other Ornette Coleman LPs. This morning, I dropped the needle on my Speakers Corner reissue of The Shape of Jazz to Come. I just flipped to side B and needed to express how much I love this record. Each song on side A makes me think, “this is my favorite track on the record.” Then the next one comes on and I think, “no, this is my favorite.”
     
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  4. Dubmart

    Dubmart Senior Member

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    You can't take any notice of Vinyl-House sold prices, they get a huge premium, especially on higher end items where a factor of two, three or even more times market value isn't unusual. Sure when they sell something I own for crazy money it makes me feel good, £3,239 for "Soul Station" being a recent example, but even though my copy appears to be better I know I couldn't get anywhere near that price, not that I'd sell it any way. They do sell some very nice records though, even if you have to be very on the ball about which pressing they have.
     
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  5. jazzsurfer

    jazzsurfer Forum Resident

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    how come they get such a premium? large following?
     
  6. Hulloder

    Hulloder Forum Resident

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    I finally picked up the Tone Poet of McCoy Tyner’s ‘Expansions’….I previously only had the BN75 pressing which was actually fine, but I’m glad I made the upgrade as this sounds great. It’s funny, all the talk of Village Vanguard on the Impulse thread and there are some parts of this that are very reminiscent of that great Coltrane band (as it should with Tyner and Carter). ‘Song of Happiness’ mines the same vein - just an incredible band with Shorter, Bartz and Woody Shaw, that’s one amazing horn line up right there.

    2 tangential points:
    McCoy Tyner was incredible through the 60s on Bluenote and even better through the 70s on Milestone. I own a whole bunch of his records and I have yet to find one that I don’t like, especially the Milestone stuff. He could do it all - trio outfit, large band, out, in, ballads.

    Gary Bartz doesn’t get enough love - I’m a big fan of the stuff he did as Gary Bartz NTU troop and recommend any of those Milestone and Prestige releases from the early to mid 70s. Of course, he also played on a bunch of Tyner’s 70s stuff as well - Cosmos, Sama Layuca, Asante - and is a highlight of those sets too.
     
  7. Dubmart

    Dubmart Senior Member

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    I'm not sure how large, but it's a following with plenty of disposable income who obviously trust Vinyl-House to have nice condition rare Jazz and Classical albums and can't be bothered to take their chances elsewhere, there are a few US Jazz sellers who get a similar premium, likewise sellers in other genres.
     
  8. jazzsurfer

    jazzsurfer Forum Resident

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    Just listened to a live trio thing with McCoy and Ron and Tony. just great.
     
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  9. mr.dave

    mr.dave Forum Resident

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    Yes, I am wondering why?! Big fan myself. Missed a Juju street original on eBay (was sold for 51 EUR + shipping, retrospectively not too bad. My sniper was loaded with 40something).
     
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  10. timzigs

    timzigs Forum Resident

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    Thank you for providing your comparison of My Conception (and I hope you recover nicely from the booster although it's a nice excuse to sit back with some great-sounding jazz :)). Your comment about the piano is interesting, and have also found some of my Kings and older BNs have a brighter, more distinct-like piano quality than those from Kevin Gray. I seem to recall some discussion a while back on the MMJ thread about this...that maybe EQ choices highlight some instruments at the expense of others. Gray's piano, while being full and exhibiting depth, seems more recessed and lighter on top with some recordings. Curious to hear anyone else's thoughts on this, and which mastering might be the more "natural" state as it relates to the piano.
     
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  11. Jcashfan

    Jcashfan Forum Resident

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    Doug had a 7 foot tall upright acoustic bass (made in Czech) which led to his "big" sound.

     
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  12. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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    Just checking in to see what’s going on. Amazon confirmed today that I should get my Ornette order on release day.

    Meanwhile, my turntable has checked out of jazz for a bit and we’re spinning from the classical side of my wall of vinyl. I just put on my Decca pressing of Lorin Maazel/Cleveland Orchestra performing the complete Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet ballet. What a terrific performance and recording. What a great composition! The percussion fff just scared the **** out of my big rottie boy Brahms. LOL
     
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  13. chris8519

    chris8519 Forum Resident

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    The shape of jazz that never came… cause it morphed to soul funk jazz instead…


    :D:D

    I’m excited for the box set too!
     
  14. ausgraeme

    ausgraeme Forum Resident

    There’s a surreal beauty to this record despite it being so “out there” for it’s time. I picked up the Speakers Corner version recently and it really does the music justice.
     
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  15. JoFr

    JoFr Fine fine music

    Great, great album. But don’t forget when you flip to side B you actually will hear side A, due to the pressing mistake of this SC (or do you have a correct version)? Anyhow, either way you can’t lose!
     
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  16. Kimiimacman

    Kimiimacman Forum Resident

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  17. YouCantWin

    YouCantWin Lacking in Some Direction

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    LOL, I have a later pressing with the correct sides.
     
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  18. dastinger

    dastinger Forum Resident

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    Some people just have too much money.
     
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  19. scotti

    scotti Forum Resident

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    Anyone else get an email update from Amazon regarding the delivery date for the Ornette Coleman box set? Got one last night that now says arriving on street 1/28. Sounds to me that they got their allocation already. Very nice indeed!
     
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  20. nosliw

    nosliw Delivering parcels throughout Teyvat! Meow~!

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    I pre-ordered Joe Pass' For Django but the price is still stuck at $55+. Let's hope that the price drops significantly before it shipped out.

    Same deal for Stanley Turrentine's Rough 'N Tumble LP: https://www.amazon.ca/Rough-Tumble-Blue-Note-Vinyl/dp/B09NMF8M68/
     
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  21. mcrichley

    mcrichley Forum Resident

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    I jumped on Rough 'N Tumble at the low low price of $49.98, I just can't see this being that price at a local shop once it's released but who knows.
     
  22. CBackley

    CBackley Chairman of the Bored


    Wait. What? I just got this album. There was a defect?

    Is SC doing Free Jazz also? I thought I had a pre-order at one point but then canceled it after I picked up the Atlantic box set.
     
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  23. Swordsandchains

    Swordsandchains True metal never rusts

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    Also got my notice of release day delivery for Ornette. Also noticed i got it for 221.99 and the price on Amazon is back up to list at 229.99
     
  24. bruinuclafan

    bruinuclafan Forum Resident

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    Yep and it’s out. I highly recommend it!
     
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  25. CBackley

    CBackley Chairman of the Bored


    Thanks! Have you compared it to the recent Atlantic reissue?
     
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