Turntable Help Please

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by axelsrd, Nov 16, 2004.

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  1. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I hooked my new (old) Pioneer PL-51 turntable to my system (Denon AVR 2803) and everything sounds fine except I am only getting sound out of the left channel. I rechecked the ground wire and the audio cables and all is well. I put a new audio Technica cartridge and new wires on the hedshell. I think I may have broke a wire or two. I don't know for sure but my fingers are fat and those wires are small and I had to push harder than I expected. I am going to take the headshell to the repair shop tomorrow and let them look at it. Does anyone have another suggestion? Is it possible that the right channel in the table is gone? If so what needs to be done to fix that???

    I'm sorry for being such a pain. I'm getting on in years (52...hehehe). Life used to be so simple back in the 70's. Just plug everything into my SX 1010 and sit back and enjoy. Now everything is digital schmigital and have to re-learn everything. It is enjoyable but a pain in the *** sometimes as well.

    Thanks guys
    Randy
     
  2. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Get a variac (volt meter) with a resistance setting and set it for something like 20ohms. Touch each of the four wires and trace it down to the RCA cables and make sure there's no dead wires going L, R, -, +.

    You need to make sure it's not the cart.
     
  3. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    It's a brand new cart. I suspect one of the wires. If it is one of the wires, would that make one of the channels go dead...well not quite dead but I can barely hear out of the right speakers. I have to put my ear next to the speaker to hear what little, and I mean little there is.
     
  4. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    If you can grab a very average volt meter, you can trace each wire using one probe to one of the conductors of the RCA cables using the other. If you hit one of the wires and you get a dead channel, you found your baddie.

    This is the easiest way to trace the problem.
     
  5. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    If it is a situation similar to what I have faced, I have solved it by hooking up the stereo cables built into my turntable into piggyback RCA stereo cables and use both channels that have phono inputs on my DJ mixer.
     
  6. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Sounds all well and good but assuming that is the problem, I am still left with my fat fingers. Putting on another set of may result in more broken wires. They don't leave much space to work with do they???
     
  7. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    No they don't.
     
  8. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Rent someone with nimble fingers. ;)

    Fat fingers, no problem.
     
  9. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    You guys crack me up. Do they make micrscopic needle nose?
     
  10. Joe Nino-Hernes

    Joe Nino-Hernes Active Member

    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    My Father has the same fat finger issue. Everytime my Dad gets the urge to try a new cartridge, I find a little overnight package in my mailbox, containing his headshell, and his cartridge!

    He is going to be out of luck pretty soon! He is getting a new table, a real audiophile table. His new tonearm will not have a removable headshell, so I think that once I mount a cart for him, he will stick with simply replacing styli!!!
     
  11. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    My turntable does have a removable headshell but my cartridge is mounted plus I get my replacement styli in bulk packages of 3.
     
  12. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

    Location:
    Fresno, California
    Berkeley had (has) a really fine place to take care of those sorts of turntable problems. As I recall (havn't been in Berkley for a while) it was Called "The Sound Well". Atlanta seems like a big enough town to have an analogous shop. The Sound Well repaired all sorts of older gear and sold a lot of refurbished older audio gear.

    I'm curious. Does the TT have a removable head-shell? If so, a swap out of the part may be possible. The head-shell itself is the most likely spot for a wire to break.
     
  13. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I am using monster THX (went overboard) audio cable instead of just plain old run of the mill audio cable. I can't imagine that being the problem.
     
  14. Tony Plachy

    Tony Plachy Senior Member

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    Pleasantville, NY
    Axel, It sounds like you are in over your head, take it to a repair shop. In the future when it comes to cartridges use tweezers and small needle nose pliers. I have long thin fingers and years of training and experience with mechanical things and I use tweezers and needle nose pliers when I work with cartridges. :thumbsup:
     
  15. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    ALP has a good point. If you know you're over your head, don't go playin' around. Take it to a guy who can rewire the arm...

    Or maybe it's time for another table? Donno.
     
  16. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    Sckott and ALP are right.
     
  17. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I have removed the headshell and cart. and am going to take it to the repair shop after work and have them re-wire it for me. I'll let you know how it turns our.
     
  18. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I took the headshell/cart. into the repair shop on my way home fromm work and the guy hooked a meter up to it and sure enough, it was the green wire. He replaced the wire and I am happy to report that all is well and I have a huge smile on my face.

    Thanks guys.
     
  19. PMC7027

    PMC7027 Forum Hall Of Fame

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    Enjoy the vinyl!
     
  20. axelsrd

    axelsrd Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I am. I just finished Supertramp's "Crime of the Century" That new cart. sounds sweet. Went upstairs and my step daughter asked me..."Do you have to play it so loud? Of course I had to tell her...YES
     
  21. JMT

    JMT Senior Member

    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA
    Ironic, isn't it?

    My kids (18 and 16) say the same thing to me when I have my main rig fired up with some jazz or rock that I like. But when it comes to their stereo and their music....well, the irony cracks me up.
     
  22. Tony Plachy

    Tony Plachy Senior Member

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    Pleasantville, NY
    Good Show! :thumbsup:
     
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