Twin Peaks: The Return (2017)...*Contains Spoilers!!*

There’s also the intriguing fact that the person who answers the door in the final scene at the Palmer residence is the real life owner of the house. It stands for debate that Cooper and Laura left the Twin Peaks universe entirely and ended up “here”.

 

I thought that too. I think their stopping at a Valero gas station (a real world gas station) was significant.

 

How many movies or shows have you watched in your life that years after the final credits rolled, kept you occupied, thinking of it, and trying to figure out what the hell happened? I Can't think of many more, if any.

 

DL is working on more Twin Peaks I read.

 

Mulholland Drive, which sucked me in to the world of David Lynch in the first place. I had to watch it again the next day.

 

After more than 30 years, I still listen to the original soundtrack once in a while....priceless.

 

Damn, thought that tweet was something new.

 

For those of you who have Xfinity, Twin Peaks: The Return is available to watch for free from July 26 - August 1.

 

Mark Frost is not dead.

 

Also didn't have poor viewership. Showtime had its biggest jump in subscribers to its app at that point when it was released

 

No question the interest for The Return was large, but so was the disappointment after the first four episodes. Twin Peaks The Return is the single worst thing David Lynch has ever created — and intentionally so. Lynch fan-boys we’re so busy trying to convince themselves (and everyone else) that The Return was a masterpiece, they didn’t even see Lynch’s outright contempt for the project and its fans.

Then again, the Lynch die-heads are far less interested in Lynch’s films, than they are with showing every other Lynch-fan that they “get it” — as if there is anything to “get” about Lynch’s films.

 

Um, what? I know tons of fans that enjoyed the series, as weird as it was.

Every time I see this thread get updated I hope it's with news of a new season.

 

Having written about Lynch and taught a course on Twin Peaks my students loved the new season, except for like one who never heard of Lynch or the show and just enrolled in the course. Don't like it? Perfectly fine but it's childish to assume bad faith on the part of others who don't share your dislike

 

Well, I for one LOVED Twin Peaks The Return, and I was floored by how creative and well put together it was. I never thought it would be so good.

 

LOL. You didn't like the show, clearly. But the series was both loved by fans and was also wildly acclaimed by critics - incredible, for something so experimental. Rolling Stone, Esquire, Washington Post and others named it the best TV show of the year. You may think you know what "Lynch die-heads" are "showing" but all you are showing is your inability to appreciate something that many others did, that's nothing to be loud and proud of, IMO. Very odd how you project your own disappointment (if you even watched it) onto the rest of the world, when there is no evidence for the latter. Vulture named it the best TV series of the decade, and it wasn't the only one to do so. Even odder is your reading of Lynch's mind to reveal the "secret fact" that he actually made something intentionally bad because he hates his own fans. My god, there's a lot there to unpack, man, and it's not about Lynch.

 

I think he meant Warren Frost, Mark's father, aka Doc Heyward, who died in 2017.

 

Exactly! I mean there are hours of documentary footage of the making of the season and early on Lynch stepped away over a budget dispute. The idea that he wasn't trying to make the best version of the script he and Frost spent a long time writing is so completely false

 

Maybe he pulled the film last minute? If indeed we get something else from the Twin Peaks universe (I don't think we will) it'll be completely secret until it's announced.

 

That's what I wondering. He pulled it for whatever reason because usually you don't have high-level rumors from critics floating around like that. Someone could have seen footage or an early cut.

Edit: also, it does seem like he was close to something with Netflix but the pandemic put it off. But nobody from Netflix seems to have been leaking info.

 

I made use of it!

 

I was equally disappointed and enthralled with the series. I think it could have been about half as long, that a lot of it was quite tedious, and that some parts looked downright cheap. But certain episodes rank among the most profound things I've ever seen on TV and so I ultimately walked away satisfied. Sometimes, there's a certain value in watching an artist be an artist. I'm not sure it's fair to say that Lynch felt contempt for the project and its fans, though he may have been expressing contempt toward television itself (if some theories are to be believed).

 

I think the documentary of the making definitely suggests he wasn't entirely happy with the budget and shooting constraints. The digital effects are definitely odd and don't look particularly realistic but they do align with what he was doing with his internet experiments. I thought they were more effective on second viewing, but they were distracting at times on first viewing.

Not sure Lynch thought of it in terms of tv as opposed to an 18 hour movie, though perhaps that in itself suggests a disinterest in the conventions of television.

 

It's been a while since I read up on the series but if I remember correctly, it was originally supposed to be shorter. Then Lynch asked for more money and somewhere along the way, the bigger budget became a longer series. I'm drawing from memory here but I feel like it was Lynch who requested a full 18 episodes and I think that was his mistake. If it were say 12 episodes instead, it may have arguably resulted in a tighter story with better production value. Part of me wonders if Lynch wanted to draw upon his meditation experience and really make audiences wait for the pay-off, but I think the same balance of patience and pay-off could have been achieved with fewer episodes. In some ways, the entire series was both a testament to unbridled artistic expression and a prime example of artistic bloatedness.

 

My understanding is the script was a giant thing not divided into episodes. Different numbers were floated around but I doubt Lynch really knew until editing finished. It was a lengthy edit too.

 

Maybe that's why he asked for more money--to accommodate the script you describe. Either way, I think it would have been more effective with a shorter overall runtime. Some episodes and sub-plots added next to nothing to the story or pacing. The problem with an artist like Lynch is that he has the freedom to ignore what might actually be constructive criticism.