Un-Grateful Thread - What Are You Listening to Instead of the Dead?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tom H, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. frightwigwam

    frightwigwam Talented Amateur

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    Except not a lot of the Dead's music in '68-69 was really "sunny hippie California," if at all. If Lou could've gotten over his hang-ups about California and "scenes," the Dead and the Velvets should've had a real good time together, at least on stage.

    Speaking of Zappa, though, I was listening to Wazoo last night. Jazz-Rock/Experimental Big Band recorded at Boston Music Hall on the last night of their 1972 tour. Although Waka/Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo did not sell much, Frank apparently had built up enough of a following to book large theaters/halls, anyway. But if people were buying tickets in hopes of hearing familiar jokes and old favorites, they don't seem to mind the all-instrumental program. Actually, a lot of them seem to dig it when Frank warns that the next pieces won't be so easy to tap your feets along to. I wonder if many of them felt disappointed when they went home, or if they were really game for anything.

    Were a lot of Deadheads in the '70s also into Frank Zappa? When Zappa played the Miami Jai Alai Fronton in 1974, a few weeks after the Dead had been there, I wonder how many people came to see both.
     
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  2. budwhite

    budwhite Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.

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    Well, this and that. Some Merle, some Dead, some Waylon and then I got this via yootobe.
    Bill Burr's legendary epic roast on the infamous tough and drunk Philly crowd. They booed him while he walked on stage and he was already pissed that the crowd didn't treat Dom Ierra well (who did a set before him).

    He's the best comedian alive and he's getting better all the time. This was in 2006 before he was a household name.

    Fyck Rocky and the Liberty Bell :laugh:

     
  3. budwhite

    budwhite Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.

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    I love the Replacements as a band. They did some great music for sure.
    But I think I love the drunken loser thing even more. I don't think there is any other band who gave their very best just to sabbotage themself. Year after year. It's amazing and laughable and sad at the same time.

    They could easily had the same success as REM or even more, but they didn't want it. Thwir stories are legendary and their live shows was always crappy but mostly fun(or sothe stpry goes..)
    . And on a good night they even played pretty good and did their own songs instead of just half assed drunken covers that was not rehearsed.

    A good example is the 1986 Hoboken NJ show that @Dahabenzapple mentioned.
     
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  4. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Un-vincifying with Black Sun Ensemble which to me sounds most I think like post-rock avant la lettre...unless la lettre was in the mail before I thought, I am not an expert on that stuff.....


     
  5. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    Lou Reed was a genius. He was also a cold, often rude and unfriendly jerk. The same can pretty much be said about Phil Lesh.

    Jerry Garcia and Moe Tucker on the other hand...

    Sweethearts.
     
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  6. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Wow...that's incredible
     
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  7. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPRZJW4NK8
     
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  8. budwhite

    budwhite Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.

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    The bootleg recording puts you in the place. People are booing and cheering at the same time. Bob Saget was there and told Joe Rogan(on his podcast two weeks ago)that Burr got a standing ovation at the end. But he(Burr) didn't see it because he had already left the stage.
     
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  9. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Dude/man

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    The Fantastic Steve Lacy and Trickles...heres the title cut..

     
  10. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    The only time it sounds like they get really mad is when he suggests they might not win a championship
     
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  11. budwhite

    budwhite Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.

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    Man, I love sports. If you wanna fire up a crowd, that's the way to go
     
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  12. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    It was just a label I used, a stereotype, that's all. Not everything the VU did was about shooting heroin either.
     
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  13. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    A few songs at most. White Light/White Heat is about speed of course, as is The Byrds “Artificial Energy”.
     
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  14. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    I think they efficiently covered the subject with "Waiting For My Man", "Sister Ray", and, obviously, "Heroin".

    I used those "sunny California" and "gloomy NY" images based mostly on the differences between the band's debut albums, both released in the same year.
     
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  15. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    JETHRO
    TULL

    THICK AS A BRICK
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    ‘Twas mighty kind of them to include a newspaper to peruse whilst listening to the album.

    My favorite couplet:

    “So where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last Saturday? ...and where have all the sportsmen, who always pulled you through? They’re all resting down in Cornwall, writing up their memoirs for a paperback edition of the Boy Scout manual.”
     
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  16. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    That newspaper must have taken as much work as the album itself!
     
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  17. Erik B.

    Erik B. Fight the Power

  18. uzn007

    uzn007 Watcher of the Skis

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    That's what Ian Anderson said.
     
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  19. johnnypaddock

    johnnypaddock Senior Member

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    I'm in the same boat on The Replacements. I've tried a few times and will probably make another effort in the future, but it might never click.

    I've always been interested in the concept of acquired taste, whether it's food, drink or music. There is something cool about it, and sometimes these are the things I enjoy most.
     
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  20. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    I agree, I can't relate to the (many) people who make snap judgments and claim to be able to tell instantly if they like something. Most of my favorite stuff is stuff that didn't click at once. And you need to do that to expand your palette, even though there's value in having certain tastes to begin with.

    There is stuff I can hear and be pretty sure I'll never like, of course. The really interesting stuff is stuff I know I should, or even will, like but don't like right away...and then there's stuff I never thought I'd have use for that eventually works its way in...
     
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  21. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    TWIAS
     
  22. johnnypaddock

    johnnypaddock Senior Member

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    Just finished this... First time seeing it. Really great documentary.

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  23. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Jorma stream from Fur Peace Ranch. He's got a nice painting of Jerry the stage tonight, and honoring his old friend with great pickin'.
     
  24. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    Frank Zappa sampling tonight:

    8/23-24/73 Helsinki - Road Tapes

    Big Swifty

    Damn man, Frank could tear heads with the best of 'em...
     
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  25. Jim Walker

    Jim Walker Senior Member

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    I listened to Thick As A Brick--SW remix late last night/this morning, a remarkable record anytime really.
    Since I get captured occasionally by another run on a Harry Potter movie while ch-surfing--they draw me
    in, i'm hopeless), I wonder sometimes if someone got JK Rowling stoned, and turned her on to TAAB
    sometime later. Oh well, just a thought.

    Songs of the South was an unexpected surprise when I saw it about half a year ago. I'll probably watch
    it again soon.



    NP... when those English blokes were on they were on, the stinging, cluttered, cutting rhythm guitars,
    majestic vocal sweeps of dire, the cool lyrics, and it all adds up to some still thrilling music forty years
    later. I get moved the same way I do with Roxy Music with these guys. There aren't many of the 80's
    bands that do that, ECHO does, and while not a fan of a single album of hits, this is a thoroughly
    enjoyable, great collection. Other assorted and sundry Sat'd Night Lites' power hitters are taking
    their beautiful toll on the sensory inputs...

    Things are wrong
    Things are going wrong
    Can you tell that in a song
    Losing sense of those harder things
    Is this the blues I'm singing?
    ``rescue '80



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