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Un-Grateful Thread - What Are You Listening to Instead of the Dead?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Tom H, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. SJR

    SJR Senior Member

    One from the latest batch of Tone Poet releases; Donald Byrd’s Byrd In Flight — sessions recorded January 17, January 25 and July 10, 1960. A killer record . . .

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    1960/2021 Blue Note ‎– ST-84048
    Blue Note Tone Poet Series – KPG&JH@CA
     
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  2. rockinlazys

    rockinlazys Forum Resident

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    I love that Lp and I thought the shows I saw from the '78 tour where fun and spirited and the tapes from that tour have done nothing but grown on me over these years...
     
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  3. Rne

    Rne Sufferin' succotash!

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    Disc 2 of the deluxe Boys for Pele. Mostly B-sides which are as terrific as the album tracks (except for the "Professional Widow" Trunk Funkin' Mix, of course).
     
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  4. brimuchmuze

    brimuchmuze Forum Resident

    Which GD album would you recommend as a starting point for a King Crimson fan?
     
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  5. SJR

    SJR Senior Member

    Blues For Allah.
     
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  6. polchik

    polchik Forum Resident

    well i've gotten tired of looking for a 'best youtube videos' thread to post this in ....

    so i'm here to say that i've watched this youtube vid twice now....

    and i'm gonna play it again .... very LOUD

    lol

     
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  7. Erik B.

    Erik B. Senior Member

    :cop::cop::cop:
     
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  8. Erik B.

    Erik B. Senior Member

    :cop::cop::cop:
     
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  9. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    I suppose it depends mostly on what aspects of Crimson you like the most. First of all, the two bands really sound nothing like one another, but they both utilize improvisation as a means of evolving into a composition. In reality, KC's improvs were somewhat more "predetermined" in that, from a break between pieces, they would intentionally have a "blow" (Fripp's use of the British jazz slang for an improvisational segment) written into the setlist as a vehicle for setting up a song proper. Some of the GD's improvs were also well-established, but there were other times when they would add an unexpected continuity between one song and another by connecting it with an unexpected improv segment. There was also often an hour-long or more segment in Set II or III that was intended to be continuous, with multiple compositions connected by improvised segments (this practice probably was at its peak in 1972-74) . So, blab, blah, blah...rather than suggesting an album, per se (although @SJR's suggestion for Blues for Allah is not a bad one), I'm going to suggest a live segment, which is what this band was all about. Give a listen to the following GD segment and then compare it to The Savage---> Dr. Diamond from 3/30/74 in Mainz. That is available on a Collector's Club CD, the Starless Box and it's also compiled on one of the essential KC sets. Note how Fripp and Cross start Dr. Diamond while Wetton and Bruford are still very much still doing The Savage, so the improv bleeds both forward from The Savage to Dr. Diamond for half the band and backwards from Dr. Diamond to The Savage for the other half of the band.

    Something similar is going on here in the transition from China Cat Sunflower to I Know You Rider. Once I Know You Rider starts formally, you realize that the improv segment between the two actually bears far more resemblance to I Know You Rider that it does to China Cat Sunflower (although it is a natural continuation of it) and that they had been bleeding forward the whole time. There are perhaps better examples that I could share, but that would involve throwing you into the void with no life preserver. I wouldn't do that to you without your explicit authorization. ;)

     
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  10. Erik B.

    Erik B. Senior Member

    Oh my ....



    :cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop:
     
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    Erik B. Senior Member

  12. SJR

    SJR Senior Member

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  13. sami

    sami Just a member

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    IMO, "Width of a Circle", "Station To Station", and "Aladdin Sane" (just the Garson solo alone) are the three greatest things Bowie ever did.
     
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  14. sami

    sami Just a member

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    Seconded.
     
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  15. Oliver

    Oliver Bourbon Infused

    Width of a Circle is probably my favorite Bowie song. So amazing. It still has a little of that hippy trippy psychedelia leftover from the 60s but then you add in the killer 70s rock guitar of Mick Ronson. A masterpiece.
     
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  16. adamos

    adamos Forum Resident

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    Fleetwood Mac English Rose. Rough and bluesy; a nice change-up.
     
  17. Erik B.

    Erik B. Senior Member

    C’mon man .. you know the thing !!! Rules is rules
     
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  18. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

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    Grachan Moncur Some Other Stuff
     
  19. ARK

    ARK Forum Resident

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    Charlton, MA, USA
    Terrapin Station
     
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  20. adamos

    adamos Forum Resident

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    The Original Fleetwood Mac (a compilation of outtakes from ‘67-‘68)
     
  21. Erik B.

    Erik B. Senior Member

    :cop::cop::cop:
     
  22. ARK

    ARK Forum Resident

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    Charlton, MA, USA
    A potential new Grateful Dead fan comes in to this thread, asks for recommendations, and you adhere to “rules”. You, sir are the antithesis is the Grateful Dead spirit!
     
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  23. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    In light of the Polizei, I started a message with brimuchmuze. Turns out that jazz is his main musical interest and really digs improv. Obviously I linked him to the E'72 China--> Rider here, but after establishing a jazz, improv and King Crimson affection, I unleased the 2/26/77 Help--> Slip--> Frank on him. Hopefully he'll get on the bus. I suspect that he might not be able to help it. :cool:
     
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  24. SJR

    SJR Senior Member

    Well, if that doesn’t work, nothing will!
     
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  25. Erik B.

    Erik B. Senior Member

    :cop::cop::cop:
     

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